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[yeomanator]

Tend to agree with the whole deposit non refundable crowd...

[muffled oars]

1 hour ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Is your location really a tree in Norway? 

Lat 59.8 Long 10.4

Ah, I fell off my perch way back. That tree is actually in the neighbour's garden, a squirrel frequents it. But Norway, yes.

[verrymerry]

To be fair to Glastonbury a deposit is usually non-refundable, that's kinda the point of them, so to return any of the deposit at all is something

[Tuna]

8 hours ago, incident said:

135k by my calculation.

I don't think there's a problem with that, actually, I'd rather the whole deposit was non refundable - anything that caused the maybes and the lineup shoppers to think twice about buying "just in case" would be welcome.

£50 is a lot to some people. Situations can change at any instance and unfortunately you can't always plan nearly 9 months in advance. Hiking it from 10 to 20 within what, 3 years, is very steep, in my opinion. Surely a simpler solution to your issue is just releasing the lineup after the payment deadline?

[LondonTom]

3 hours ago, funkychick2007 said:

Are we not forgetting the true spirit of glastonbury! If you dont want to venture into the unknown then dont buy a ticket! Glastonbury is so much more than who plays on the main stage! Its another world created by many many unseen and unheard of people! Thank you so much to those who make it possible! 

Yes I think we are, compassion, leftish politics and a coming together of different people from all the world.

Taking the full deposit is against the Glastonbury Spirit  more than anyone deciding the line up isn't for them or losing £50 because they have had an unfortunate change in circumstances...

[pjadnoo]

4 minutes ago, LondonTom said:

Taking the full deposit is against the Glastonbury Spirit  more than anyone deciding the line up isn't for them or losing £50 because they have had an unfortunate change in circumstances...

Yep, I agree.

It's weird that with Glastonbury you get this strange audience attitude that "Glastonbury's a place where you can do what you like and have fun ... unless you're not enjoying it in the way that I think you should, in which case you should be discouraged from coming."

At the end of the day, there's always going to be someone else who's exploring more of the festival than you, or is less interested in the lineup, or whatever, so the reverse snobbery is kinda unnecessary. Not to mention that fact that most people's interests in Glastonbury will change over time; I know how I spent my time in 2005 is completely different to what I did in 2015.

[Hutchmaster]

I was planning to go for the deposit but due to my financial circumstances right now, I couldn't even afford that let alone the full ticket price. It's probably helps get the students like myself in as well; £230 odd is a lot of money in one lump sum for an event 9 months down the line when the majority of students have full time education and only part time jobs, if a job at all. Gives something to save towards as well!

[Matt42]

Is Glastonbury one of the only festivals where this is mandatory?

coachella is in high demand festival and they don't offer a deposit refund or anything like that! I think Glastonbury is quite generous to offer it!

[waterfalls212434]

Totally opposed to this attitude just because someone decides not to go doesnt mean they are somehow shitting on you...That deposit is there for a reason, not everybody who chooses not to go in the end does so out of choice, they may have illness, family circumstances, a big drop in funds available meaning they can no longer afford a ticket there could be many reasons.....try to be more understanding please rather then `assuming` these people are just lazy or taking the piss out of other festival goers or something a ` non refundable deposit ` would simply mean people were punished for circumstances they may have had no way of predicting would pop up the 6 months beforehand when they paid the deposit.  Hardly in the spirit of things is it as others have said above.

Edited October 10, 2016 by waterfalls212434

[Untz]

10 hours ago, Tuna said:

Surely a simpler solution to your issue is just releasing the lineup after the payment deadline?

Delay it 'til after the last refund date in May. Headliners too.

That'll really sort the men from the boys, so to speak.

[Tuna]

3 minutes ago, Untz said:

Delay it 'til after the last refund date in May. Headliners too.

That'll really sort the men from the boys, so to speak.

This isn't something I advocate - just surely a better solution from his point of view than unnecessarily holding onto money. Even then, really, it's unfair to criticise people who want to go based on the musical lineup, as if their digestion and enjoyment of the festival is 'wrong', so to speak. 

[trevethin]

19 hours ago, incident said:

135k by my calculation.

I don't think there's a problem with that, actually, I'd rather the whole deposit was non refundable - anything that caused the maybes and the lineup shoppers to think twice about buying "just in case" would be welcome.

I agree.  Have never understood why the deposit less £10/20 is refundable.

[Untz]

5 minutes ago, Tuna said:

This isn't something I advocate - just surely a better solution from his point of view than unnecessarily holding onto money. Even then, really, it's unfair to criticise people who want to go based on the musical lineup, as if their digestion and enjoyment of the festival is 'wrong', so to speak. 

No, everyone must enjoy the festival the same way and for the same reasons as me!

You're right and as much as it annoys a lot on here, including me, those people trying for tickets "just in case" have just as much right to be there as anyone else. Though I do think the festival benefits from having more people who are interested regardless, rather than those that turn up just based on one or two headliners.

[Tartan_Glasto]

I agree that generally a deposit would be non-refundable and losing it would be just part and parcel, however it's great that they so give a large whack of it back if you cannot make it.

As much as I love this site, I have noticed it has a fair few folk who try to think up ways to discourage others from getting Glastonbury tickets. Everyone has the right to attend if they so wish to do so. Yes, it's hard to get tickets but that's the nature of the beast when it comes to an event that many people want to experience. Someone that's been to the last ten in a row has no more right to be there than someone who wants to go for the first time.

The deposit scheme makes it as accessible to many as it can. It's the fairest way.

[waterfalls212434]

1 hour ago, Tartan_Glasto said:

I agree that generally a deposit would be non-refundable and losing it would be just part and parcel, however it's great that they so give a large whack of it back if you cannot make it.

As much as I love this site, I have noticed it has a fair few folk who try to think up ways to discourage others from getting Glastonbury tickets. Everyone has the right to attend if they so wish to do so. Yes, it's hard to get tickets but that's the nature of the beast when it comes to an event that many people want to experience. Someone that's been to the last ten in a row has no more right to be there than someone who wants to go for the first time.

The deposit scheme makes it as accessible to many as it can. It's the fairest way.

Id ask these people who somehow think they have a god given right to be at the festival over anyone else because they consider themselves `regulars`.....would they have felt the same way if someone tried to prevent them going to their first one using that logic? 

[The_Amazing_Oblong]

Personally I think £20 is too much, Should be a tenner max as I'm sure this would cover the cost of cancelling a ticket that then gets resold for the full price anyway.

Lots of reasons people may have to cancel, they should not be punished for doing so.

I say make it as easy and painless as possible to cancel a ticket as there are a lot of people desperate to go who would snap up that returned ticket.

 

[Rumblestripe]

I think it's pretty fair as it is. In my (admittedly limited) experience I've always managed to get a ticket in the resale or one of the secret snap sales when I've wanted to. I had to give up my 2010 ticket (it still hurts) so it is nice to think that it went to someone who really wanted it.

I would think that the £20 probably covers Seetickets charges for selling the ticket rather than generating any additional moolah for either charity or indeed to darn Michael's shorts.

[Memory Man]

bit harsh to make it completely non refundable the £50. Sure theres quite a few who just decide not to go but there are people who have genuine reasons that they can't go that they couldn't have foreseen in October. It would be harsh to make people pay £50 for something that couldn't be foreseen just because the festival wants to sell its deposits 9 months before the festival.

If they were to make the £50 deposit non refundable they would need to put the deposits on sale later than October for me.

[russycarps]

2 hours ago, The_Amazing_Oblong said:

Personally I think £20 is too much, Should be a tenner max as I'm sure this would cover the cost of cancelling a ticket that then gets resold for the full price anyway.

Lots of reasons people may have to cancel, they should not be punished for doing so.

I say make it as easy and painless as possible to cancel a ticket as there are a lot of people desperate to go who would snap up that returned ticket.

 

Spot on. How on earth can they justify doubling this cost in one year? Amazing. 

 

[Rumblestripe]

It was £15 this year and (IIRC) the year before

[russycarps]

2 minutes ago, Rumblestripe said:

It was £15 this year and (IIRC) the year before

ah I thought it was a tenner. Thankfully I've never had to use it!

[fur_q]

Do the people wishing the deposi was non refundable not realise that people paying deposits and then cancelling makes no difference to overall amount of tickets sold. In fact loosing the whole £50 might motivate people who don't want to go to pay the balance and go anyway rather than cancel so would make it less likely that you would get a ticket.

Plus well done for having a level of disposable income where you can afford to loose £50 for nothing and/or not having any health/employment issues or caring responsibilities that may prevent you from commiting to something 9 month s in advance. You're very fortunate, but not everyone is. 

Edited October 10, 2016 by fur_q

[MilkyJoe]

£20 seems pretty fair to me although this year I think they should be giving people the lot back plus £20 if they cancel. That would mean more tickets in the pot come April!