Football 16-17

[ThomThomDrum]

6 very long weeks it looks like for Coutinho............. 

[zahidf]

Tony pulis has to pay 3.7 million back to crystal palace.

Also, very harsh from the judge

 

[eFestivals]

15 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said:

6 very long weeks it looks like for Coutinho............. 

it could be worse if that's all it is. He'd be back to cover most of Mane's missing-time.

 

[mjsell]

For me Coutinho has been the best player in the league so far this season so he will definately be missed considerably by Liverpool. However, if their run of fixtures are kind (I havent looked), they still have the quality to get through this period providing they can get lallana back quickly (and Firmino's knock isnt a deceiving one). Wiji can be played in a more advanced position and Origi looks capable.

Any further injuries though and they could be struggling. 

 

[Hugh Jass]

37 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Tony pulis has to pay 3.7 million back to crystal palace.

Also, very harsh from the judge

 

Not harsh at all, have a read of the court transcript. TP does not come out of it at all well, and I say this as an Albion fan.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2016/2999.html

[DareToDibble]

13 minutes ago, mjsell said:

If their run of fixtures are kind (I havent looked), they still have the quality to get through this period providing they can get lallana back quickly (and Firmino's knock isnt a deceiving one).

Luckily our run of fixtures doesn't look too bad. He would miss the Man City game, which is a big loss. Also the derby, but hopefully we can get through that without him.
He would actually be coming back around the time of the United game. Meaning he would also be available for the Chelsea game at the end of Jan! Good timing....

[eFestivals]

22 minutes ago, mjsell said:

if their run of fixtures are kind (I havent looked)

they're very kind right up to new year's day eve - when they have city.

Tho everton fans would probably disagree with that.

 

Edited November 28, 2016 by eFestivals
correcting the date

[Wooderson]

Phil pretty unlucky to have picked up that injury but it could've been worse as highlighted by some pretty sad gloating from Chelsea and Utd fans on Twitter on Sat afternoon.

[zahidf]

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

Not harsh at all, have a read of the court transcript. TP does not come out of it at all well, and I say this as an Albion fan.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2016/2999.html

i didnt mean it as harsh and unfair, more like harsh but fair☺

[zahidf]

The absolute state of this. He is the second biggest prick in the story

 

Edited November 28, 2016 by zahidf

[kaosmark2]

Amusing to see everyone at Spurs realising what any geordie could have told you about Sissoko.

[zahidf]

2 hours ago, zahidf said:

The absolute state of this. He is the second biggest prick in the story

 

 

[kaosmark2]

Old fashioned twat thinks men shouldn't have emotions shocker.

Seriously? Why post stuff that everyone knows idiots think? Is it just to spread the rage?

[eFestivals]

13 hours ago, Wooderson said:

Phil pretty unlucky to have picked up that injury but it could've been worse as highlighted by some pretty sad gloating from Chelsea and Utd fans on Twitter on Sat afternoon.

I was on the London express out of Lime Street after the match on Saturday - full of Liverpool fans (so it's not only Manc that lives down south ) - and from their chat I was amazed at how unconcerned they all seemed by Phil's injury. All the chat was about Origi.

(I was also into Lime Street with a bunch of fans, who queued at the door, nodded at each other, "you going to the match?" blah blah, "are you staying over?" blah blah, to "where are you staying?". One geezer said "in So&So Hotel" and an old guy says "I spent my wedding night there". First guy goes "what's it like?". Old geezer says "dunno, it was 50 years ago" - which made me laugh)

[mjsell]

2 hours ago, eFestivals said:

I was on the London express out of Lime Street after the match on Saturday - full of Liverpool fans (so it's not only Manc that lives down south )

I definitely know more Liverpool fans 'down south' than United

[eFestivals]

Just now, mjsell said:

I definitely know more Liverpool fans 'down south' than United

To be fair to them, there was a big proportion with scouser accents - which certainly isn't the case with any southern Utd fan I've ever met (manc accents, not scouse, obviously).

 

[mjsell]

Just now, eFestivals said:

To be fair to them, there was a big proportion with scouser accents - which certainly isn't the case with any southern Utd fan I've ever met (manc accents, not scouse, obviously).

 

For me its a generation thing - which is pretty obvious. More United fans my age, more Liverpool fans my parents age, doesnt take a genius to work out why.

 

[eFestivals]

22 minutes ago, mjsell said:

For me its a generation thing - which is pretty obvious. More United fans my age, more Liverpool fans my parents age, doesnt take a genius to work out why.

 

from what I noticed of those on the train there might have been an amount of that, but not to a dominant degree. Plenty were too young or too old for that to be all there was to it. 

Having said that there were plenty in the 40-60 age range, tho that would also be the demographic most likely to have the funds for expensive train & match tickets.

[mjsell]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

from what I noticed of those on the train there might have been an amount of that, but not to a dominant degree. Plenty were too young or too old for that to be all there was to it. 

Having said that there were plenty in the 40-60 age range, tho that would also be the demographic most likely to have the funds for expensive train & match tickets.

Yeah, its a sad state of affairs that the other day when I was watching a game on telly the camera panned onto a couple of kids (probably no older than 6 or 7) who looked like they were absolutely loving it and I was noticable shocked because you hardly ever see kids at games anymore. My experiences are probably heavily influenced by the fact I support probably the least lower income friendly club in the country, but just seeing that really hit home to me.

Football in this country really isnt planning for the future.

[The Nal]

21 minutes ago, mjsell said:

Football in this country really isnt planning for the future.

When Villa (last season) have one of the the top 20 highest wage bills in Europe you know something is wrong. 

[TheGayTent]

32 minutes ago, mjsell said:

Yeah, its a sad state of affairs that the other day when I was watching a game on telly the camera panned onto a couple of kids (probably no older than 6 or 7) who looked like they were absolutely loving it and I was noticable shocked because you hardly ever see kids at games anymore. My experiences are probably heavily influenced by the fact I support probably the least lower income friendly club in the country, but just seeing that really hit home to me.

Football in this country really isnt planning for the future.

Interesting as that's not my experience at all over the last decade. I think there's a lot of clubs that do offer decent kids prices and I've seen youngsters all over the country. Pretty confident that the numbers of kids at games now is much much higher than it was in the 80s for example.

The missing generation for me are the 17-30 age range. Too old to qualify for kids prices, too young and not mature enough career wise to have the disposable income needed to afford adult prices. 

You used to get groups of older teenagers/early 20 something's going together to games. That's what I don't see much of anymore. 

[TheGayTent]

21 minutes ago, The Nal said:

When Villa (last season) have one of the the top 20 highest wage bills in Europe you know something is wrong. 

Villa's transfer policy and wage structure ?

[TheGayTent]

14 hours ago, zahidf said:

The absolute state of this. He is the second biggest prick in the story

 

Been sacked unsurprisingly. 

[eFestivals]

19 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

The missing generation for me are the 17-30 age range. Too old to qualify for kids prices, too young and not mature enough career wise to have the disposable income needed to afford adult prices

while i don't disagree that disposable income is in the mix, i'd say it's about more than just that with that age-group - it's as much about where they might spend the disposable income they have as it might be a lack of disposable income.

That's the age group that most "going out" options are targeted towards, and a wild night with your mates is likely to have greater attractions than footie which is (compared to other options) less about the socialising and more about the watching.

For that age group in today's world, I reckon footie is always going to come out as second to most folk against the other options, particularly when the ability to follow at match as it happens or to watch it (or highlights) afterwards is so easy now.

Edited November 29, 2016 by eFestivals

[The Nal]

22 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

Villa's transfer policy and wage structure ?

haha yeah pretty much. They're just behind Atletico in wages.