no doubt about it, Ian Watkins is a nonce

[thetime]

I think you're still missing what me & thesecretingredientiscrime are saying that the problem is people believing things even after it has been proven otherwise, similar things can still happen even without the press through empty gossip in the pub.

[jump]

Thats is the point ive been making but to say the media are not to blame at all is baffling.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Thats is the point ive been making but to say the media are not to blame at all is baffling.

Edited December 19, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[the wonderwhy]

Ferne Cotton has been dragged into it by the Mail (shoddy paper )

That's the kind of thing they shouldn't be doing... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250400/Ian-Watkins-Lostprophets-remanded-custody-claims-plotted-rape-pre-teen-girl.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Joe-]

creepy

[AcademicPistol]

Dodgy

[eFestivals]

Dodgy

I thought it was someone from lostprophets that'd been nicked.

So why are you bring the surfer-favs Dodgy into it?

Edited December 19, 2012 by eFestivals

[Joe-]

Lot worse than i thought

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-remanded-in-custody-after-appearing-in-court-accused-of-conspiring-to-rape-oneyearold-girl-8425042.html

[AcademicPistol]

I thought it was someone from lostprophets that'd been nicked.

So why are you bring the surfer-favs Dodgy into it?

[mrtourette]

I think you're still missing what me & thesecretingredientiscrime are saying that the problem is people believing things even after it has been proven otherwise, similar things can still happen even without the press through empty gossip in the pub.

[lharris92]

well his career is fucked now no matter what.

what tops it is the fact the women's names can't be released for legal reasons, yet his can...

problem is anyone who gets arrested in this sort of case is damned no matter what if their name gets released.

shocking if true though.

[Messi30]

I would guess the women are mothers to the alledged victims. Releasing their names effictivly names their child.

[Mouseboy11]

I bet the band are pissed off, he's essentially ruined their careers to.

Edited December 19, 2012 by Mouseboy11

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

well his career is fucked now no matter what.

what tops it is the fact the women's names can't be released for legal reasons, yet his can...

problem is anyone who gets arrested in this sort of case is damned no matter what if their name gets released.

shocking if true though.

[wilko8]

Ok fair enough.

Press dont destroy peoples lives just the police.

[Gucci Piggy]

As I was reading this my dad handed me a newspaper saying a local doctor has been sentenced to 11 years in jail for sexually abusing young patients. Bit of a coincidence.

[mrtourette]

Where have you seen they can't be named for legal reasons? I wouldn't see much point in naming them.

[lharris92]

I would guess the women are mothers to the alledged victims. Releasing their names effictivly names their child.

[MJMilz14]

I bet the band are pissed off, he's essentially ruined their careers to.

[Mouseboy11]

From what I've heard (and I won't say where from, but I've no reason to doubt it), none of the band, nor any of Ian's friend's believe he is guilty.

Pissed off of course, but at the moment, not pissed off with him.

[Mouseboy11]

Scott Langford ‏@Metroidfan09

@MattOGrady if this happened to one of the bands you produce/mix for you wouldnt say this, isnt the saying go Innocent Until Proven Guilty

13mMatt O'Grady ‏@MattOGrady

@Metroidfan09 there's a lot of things that people in the industry know that you don't, that's all I'm saying.

This guy is a mixed for Youmeatsix, Deaf Havana and people like that. Said he's not surprised about it either.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

true, is probably a good enough reason because would cause backlash against them + possibly their family

in most of the reports about it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250400/Ian-Watkins-Lostprophets-remanded-custody-claims-plotted-rape-pre-teen-girl.html

quote below is from the mails report about it

[thetime]

45]

Scott Langford ‏@Metroidfan09

@MattOGrady if this happened to one of the bands you produce/mix for you wouldnt say this, isnt the saying go Innocent Until Proven Guilty

45]

13mMatt O'Grady ‏@MattOGrady

@Metroidfan09 there's a lot of things that people in the industry know that you don't, that's all I'm saying.

This guy is a mixed for Youmeatsix, Deaf Havana and people like that. Said he's not surprised about it either.

[thetime]

Hmmmm....that would be the same police who may have just prevented a one-year-old child from having their life ruined.

[Mouseboy11]

Does that not make them nearly as bad? If I knew something someone was doing I would report it not stand by and let it happen.