2013 Lineup

[Chinaski_]

DP came higher on a poll vote than Blur. You'd be interested how many want to see DM. 2nd night at o2 went on sale very quickly as the 1st sold out very quickly.

Based on that you can count DP as a big booking

[SOAD]

One thing that sticks in my head from this years Reading is actually Chop Suey coming on at the mainstage and everyone singing along.

[kaosmark2]

DP came higher on a poll vote than Blur. You'd be interested how many want to see DM. 2nd night at o2 went on sale very quickly as the 1st sold out very quickly.

Based on that you can count DP as a big booking

[jump]

I'll make one last comment on SOAD... I don't know why people think they will sub... they are clearly not a subbing band anymore... I can totally understand the not playing argument but they really don't need to accept a sub slot anywhere now... Plus they had one of the biggest crowds I have seen at Download and that was against a huge second stage headliner in Alice Cooper... they have the fanbase...

As far as record sales etc metal bands don't really get platinum records over here in the UK (other than Linkin Park)... Black Sabbath don't even have a platinum record in the UK... Slipknot don't (and they have headlined three fests in recent years)... Metallica and Iron Maiden only have 5 between the two of them (consider how many albums they have released and that they are probably the two biggest metal acts of all time)... Rammstein haven't even had a gold album over here and yet they play huge arena tours and headline UK fests... none of these bands play sub slots at UK fests anymore I very much doubt SOAD would.

SOAD would easily do an arena tour if they toured the UK now... they don't need to take a sub slot at Reading. I would argue they are easily one of the biggest metal acts of the modern era. I would also argue System would be much more suited to headlining Reading than Black Sabbath... I know most of my friends who love Foos, Blink 182, Green Day etc love System.

Ps I don't think they are going to play anyway... if they do any UK fest this year it will be Soni imo

[mrtourette]

Seems every year SOAD get a big sing along at Reading... always makes me laugh how more people seem to sing along to a recording than seem to sing along to alot of the bands actually playing live.

[moz4pm]

Sabbath and Depeche Mode would be brilliant for me and would get a lot of my friends to return who've given up on Leeds in the last few years.

[SOAD]

Sabbath have got a platinum album and have the iconic status which means they must be headliners but for all the other bands you have mentioned headlining UK fests they have all been at metal fest not fests in the ilk of R&L and playing arens doesn't mean they are headliner sized as bands as low down as 5th on R&L mainstage can/have played arenas.

[Mouseboy11]

My issue is with the if they play they sub attitude. They wouldn't bother with subbing, whether or not they'd actually be booked is another thing.

[kev1664]

My major point has been why they wouldn't sub at Reading... I'm not trying to convince people they will headline Reading... like you said these bands can headline UK fests... so why wouldn't they stay at these festivals? Anyway I still believe people are underestimating the popularity of SOAD... I mean people are suggesting Deftones to play third from top and then expecting a band like SOAD who are much much bigger to take the slot just above them on the lineup... plus people have actually been suggesting Weezer to sub Reading also again a band arguably much smaller than System of a Down in the UK. It'd be ridiculous to suggest Weezer headlining Download yet a band who has headlined there twice are expected to take the same slot they would supposedly get at Reading... it makes no sense. Again I say I don't think System of a Down will play Reading but really don't see why they would take a sub spot if they did play unless it was booked as an Ozzfest day or something and SOAD were co headliners with Sabbath.

[the wonderwhy]

I've heard that Arctic Monkeys are going to be announced around Christmas time, around when they're supposedly unveiling this first track off the new album.

Just a rumour obviously, but certainly possible...

Edited December 5, 2012 by MattDavies__

[jump]

My major point has been why they wouldn't sub at Reading... I'm not trying to convince people they will headline Reading... like you said these bands can headline UK fests... so why wouldn't they stay at these festivals? Anyway I still believe people are underestimating the popularity of SOAD... I mean people are suggesting Deftones to play third from top and then expecting a band like SOAD who are much much bigger to take the slot just above them on the lineup... plus people have actually been suggesting Weezer to sub Reading also again a band arguably much smaller than System of a Down in the UK. It'd be ridiculous to suggest Weezer headlining Download yet a band who has headlined there twice are expected to take the same slot they would supposedly get at Reading... it makes no sense. Again I say I don't think System of a Down will play Reading but really don't see why they would take a sub spot if they did play unless it was booked as an Ozzfest day or something and SOAD were co headliners with Sabbath.

[Luke Routledge]

I've heard that Arctic Monkeys are going to be announced around Christmas time, around when they're supposedly unveiling this first track off the new album.

Just a rumour obviously, but certainly possible...

[rug568]

No but i reckon it will be around May time. I hope they will have learnt that you can't release an album a couple of weeks before a major festival show.m

[jump]

No but i reckon it will be around May time. I hope they will have learnt that you can't release an album a couple of weeks before a major festival show.m

[gazza_20]

I've heard that Arctic Monkeys are going to be announced around Christmas time, around when they're supposedly unveiling this first track off the new album.

Just a rumour obviously, but certainly possible...

[LondonTom]

Fair enough, that's borne out by them subbing V this year. I guess it just surprised me that an act who is out-and-out, unashamedly singles-based chart pop is headlining T, but no-one else really commented on it .

[mrtourette]

No but i reckon it will be around May time. I hope they will have learnt that you can't release an album a couple of weeks before a major festival show.m

[mrtourette]

Nah T has been unashamedly moving in that direction for a while, it was a matter of when not if! (I am actually surprised they got Beyonce and had her sub that year!).

[the wonderwhy]

I don't think the new Arctics album will be out until end of 2013.

[jump]

I don't think the new Arctics album will be out until end of 2013.

[SOAD]

I've not been making a case for System to headline or sub, I've just been poking in holes in people's argeuments but the same reason why people think Weezer or Deftones will get higher spots than they really would is the same reason other people have been saying System would headline, they are fans and fans think they are bigger than they actually are.

[gazza_20]

I don't think the new Arctics album will be out until end of 2013.

[dentalplan]

thing is, nor what coldplay's for example when they headed glasto.

[jump]

what?

[kaosmark2]

I get that but I try not to... I'm a huge fan of Deftones and I'm one of the few who reckons they won't move up in the lineup... People are stating bands like Smashing Pumpkins and FNM to sub... two of my fave bands and yet I legitimately don't think they will sub because I dont think they would get the sort of crowd needed for those slots.. like I don't think SOAD will sub... not because they're one of my fave bands but because I think they have better options and are probably too big... I'd rather SOAD play sub than not at all but don't see it happening... like I would love Pumpkins and FNM to play but don't think they will... same with Pixies, NIN etc