NOS Alive 2025

[charlierc]

On 1/9/2025 at 10:05 AM, branvan said:

In the first two weeks of the year, the bookers and media people are still in Thailand... 😏

Alright for some eh?

[charlierc]

9 hours ago, Tbrady94 said:

 

He's already headlined some of the biggest UK festivals with Reading and Leeds being biggest, and there's talk of him headlining Glastonbury too.

 

He's absolutely massive in the UK.

There's always a degree of variation with these things. Kings of Leon are huge here in the UK but went about 15 years without playing a single show in France, while The Killers did a big UK stadium tour in 2022 but were supporting the Chili Peppers at Werchter, to give two examples.

[Tbrady94]

I think Sam Fender is much bigger than KOL in the UK nowadays. Like I'm unsure whether they would close out Leeds/Reading currently, but Fender would.

[MagneticField85]

8 hours ago, TheNewUnion said:

Read a really good article about the problems facing music festivals

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/jan/12/uk-festivals-face-really-tough-year-due-to-fewer-headline-acts-and-rising-costs

There's not enough "big" bands to go around now. 

 

Journo's are quite lost when reporting about live music business; every year they write the same article and sell the same narratives.

Dirty little secret: most years will be like this from now onwards; and it started already a couple of seasons ago.

Margins for organizers (that allow investing in more bands and more popular ones) have decreased. On the other hand, artist fees are up. That makes booking big bands much harder.

I'm not sharing any exclusive info, some of you here already connected the dots, but it's tiresome to read random stuff in newspapers. "Tough year"; well, not only this one, baby. 

[charlierc]

8 minutes ago, Tbrady94 said:

I think Sam Fender is much bigger than KOL in the UK nowadays. Like I'm unsure whether they would close out Leeds/Reading currently, but Fender would.

True - I don't think KOL sold out a UK tour last year of BST Hyde Park and multiple arena shows while Fender's arena tour raced out the door and he pretty much sold out his 4 night stadium run scheduled for summer. So it's a changing of the guard in thar respect.

[charlierc]

4 minutes ago, MagneticField85 said:

 

Journo's are quite lost when reporting about live music business; every year they write the same article and sell the same narratives.

Dirty little secret: most years will be like this from now onwards; and it started already a couple of seasons ago.

Margins for organizers (that allow investing in more bands and more popular ones) have decreased. On the other hand, artist fees are up. That makes booking big bands much harder.

I'm not sharing any exclusive info, some of you here already connected the dots, but it's tiresome to read random stuff in newspapers. "Tough year"; well, not only this one, baby. 

Makes you wonder what will change it tbf. Or if this just another place where the pandemic has screwed up the economics that underpinned things for so long.

[joaommaia]

1 hour ago, Tbrady94 said:

I think Sam Fender is much bigger than KOL in the UK nowadays. Like I'm unsure whether they would close out Leeds/Reading currently, but Fender would.

Sure and, in Portugal, KoL are bigger than Fender, but both are not enough to sell out a big festival.

[matrainertje]

12 hours ago, Tbrady94 said:

I think Sam Fender is much bigger than KOL in the UK nowadays. Like I'm unsure whether they would close out Leeds/Reading currently, but Fender would.

What does the UK have to do with this? In the UK, The 1975 and Gerry Cinnamon are also big, but these names wouldn't top mainland EU fests too. 

[Dazrigby88]

12 hours ago, MagneticField85 said:

 

Journo's are quite lost when reporting about live music business; every year they write the same article and sell the same narratives.

Dirty little secret: most years will be like this from now onwards; and it started already a couple of seasons ago.

Margins for organizers (that allow investing in more bands and more popular ones) have decreased. On the other hand, artist fees are up. That makes booking big bands much harder.

I'm not sharing any exclusive info, some of you here already connected the dots, but it's tiresome to read random stuff in newspapers. "Tough year"; well, not only this one, baby. 

why are margins now so thin? Why did coviud have that effect? Not disputing your ppoint in any way, genuinely curious to know...

[Daniel Ferreira]

[sisco]

[manelrl]

Raye is co-headlining Werchter with Sam Fender. She's also headlining Bilbao BBK and Lollapalooza. Do you think she can come to Alive?

[TheNewUnion]

3 hours ago, Daniel Ferreira said:

Excellent! I've never seen them, I like twee indie, great addition. 

[Daniel Ferreira]

27 minutes ago, manelrl said:

Raye is co-headlining Werchter with Sam Fender. She's also headlining Bilbao BBK and Lollapalooza. Do you think she can come to Alive?

Raye's audience in Portugal is low

https://songstats.com/artist/36z1o8lt/raye/audience

[TheNewUnion]

50 minutes ago, manelrl said:

Raye is co-headlining Werchter with Sam Fender. She's also headlining Bilbao BBK and Lollapalooza. Do you think she can come to Alive?

She'd definitely be a great addition. We can but hope. 

[FestivalJamie]

Sam fender and girl in red on the same day is pretty nice. 

[Vanbang]

2 hours ago, FestivalJamie said:

Sam fender and girl in red on the same day is pretty nice. 

Add Hozier, the War on Drugs, Bloc Party and close out with The Prodigy and it turns to a great day/weekend

!

[Ausländer]

Looking at the Poster I would say Fender is definitely not a headliner

[joaommaia]

Mumford and Sons will announce something on Friday................

Edited January 15, 2025 by joaommaia

[sisco]

2 minutes ago, joaommaia said:

Mumford and Sons are announcing something on Friday................

Where did they post that out of interest?

[joaommaia]

3 minutes ago, sisco said:

Where did they post that out of interest?

It was not today.

 

[Vanbang]

Back to waiting in anticipation on Neil Young headlining the Friday 🤔

[Tigane]

22 minutes ago, sisco said:

Where did they post that out of interest?

they are posting storys everyday with the date 17th January

[TheNewUnion]

2 hours ago, joaommaia said:

Mumford and Sons will announce something on Friday................

Good god no!

[charlierc]

I mean, they would be a big name act so could see it making sense... unfortunately.