Rock Werchter 2025

[Floyd_Ams]

5 minutes ago, BenG92 said:

Not massively bothered about a Fender headline but Fontaines are one of my favourite (and one of the best) bands going so that's a big bonus, cheers Ken. Would be amazing if they closed out the Barn one night.

 

I think it's more likely that they'll get a high spot on the main - as high as sub (otherwise, it will be carnage outside the Barn, especially if they put them against a pop or hip hop name). Thursday would seem a strong possibility. I'd love to see them again in any case!

 

And I'm really hoping for Beth Gibbons from that Roskilde announcement.

[The Black]

58 minutes ago, sisco said:

He has a serious health condition which caused that 

 

Has or had? Makes quite a difference for worries.

[matrainertje]

2 hours ago, gingerevans84 said:

He had a huge crowd in 2023..

Not really huge, was it? Also, that day didn't really seem to sell all that well, and he played 3rd down. 

 

Not impressed so far... But a lineup is more than just the headliners of course. I would love to see Beth Gibbons off of Roskilde. 

[Nicklord]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I walked way up front during the middle of it easily 

[tmolvik]

1 hour ago, Ken19 said:

Fontaines and the announcement…

 

Only Fontaines from those three, means no Biffy (not a BIG surprise, but one can always hope) 😞

With Fender being the second announced headliner, I also think we know where the bar is set this year. Means another year of Måneskin, Dua, Lenny-likes. Don't think we should expect any fireworks on main stage, so yet a year of hoping that The Slope will deliver the goods. 

[thetime]

1 hour ago, sisco said:

He has a serious health condition which caused that 

 

Didn't he just get pissed a lot? I remember being gutted he cancelled Sziget 2022, left us with Holly Humberstone subbing... 

[Nicklord]

2 minutes ago, tmolvik said:

 

Only Fontaines from those three, means no Biffy (not a BIG surprise, but one can always hope) 😞

With Fender being the second announced headliner, I also think we know where the bar is set this year. Means another year of Måneskin, Dua, Lenny-likes. Don't think we should expect any fireworks on main stage, so yet a year of hoping that The Slope will deliver the goods. 

Dua Lipa is easily bigger than Maneskin, Lenny Kravitz or Sam Fender. I don't think it's even close. 

 

2024 had 2 proper headliners with her and Foo Fighters and those were the only sold out days at the end of the day

[tmolvik]

Just now, Nicklord said:

Dua Lipa is easily bigger than Maneskin, Lenny Kravitz or Sam Fender. I don't think it's even close. 

 

2024 had 2 proper headliners with her and Foo Fighters and those were the only sold out days at the end of the day

My son's singing in the shower is more relevant than Måneskin, but that wasn't really the point, and I'm not sure we really disagree. Dua Lipa is okay enough for those liking her stuff, but they all were disappointments in terms of what was "expected"/hoped for in advance.

 

We tend to think that the next year it will all be great and that the old RW is back in terms of line-ups, but those times are gone as there simply aren't enough of those major headliners around to put all in one festival. The level we have had recent years are therefore the one we can expect going forward, with maybe one major rock act each year. And that won't change ticket prices either as long as people is paying. Fender on a Saturday is great for them, as they know that day will sell out no matter what. The big error last year, was not getting anything better than Lenny on a Thursday. 

[ParanoidTourist]

17 minutes ago, tmolvik said:

My son's singing in the shower is more relevant than Måneskin, but that wasn't really the point, and I'm not sure we really disagree. Dua Lipa is okay enough for those liking her stuff, but they all were disappointments in terms of what was "expected"/hoped for in advance.

 

We tend to think that the next year it will all be great and that the old RW is back in terms of line-ups, but those times are gone as there simply aren't enough of those major headliners around to put all in one festival. The level we have had recent years are therefore the one we can expect going forward, with maybe one major rock act each year. And that won't change ticket prices either as long as people is paying. Fender on a Saturday is great for them, as they know that day will sell out no matter what. The big error last year, was not getting anything better than Lenny on a Thursday. 

 

Good point! We don´t have the same excellent line-up now as we did in the pre-Covid days. On the other hand, last year had plenty of great touring bands that Werchter didn´t get that showed up in the August festivals instead. 

 

Hopefully they can dish out a great headliner for Thursday and Sunday.  

[strudd3rs]

Fender is in the middle of last years headliners mentioned - bigger than Maneskin but smaller than Dua Lipa

[sisco]

1 hour ago, tmolvik said:

 

Only Fontaines from those three, means no Biffy (not a BIG surprise, but one can always hope) 😞

With Fender being the second announced headliner, I also think we know where the bar is set this year. Means another year of Måneskin, Dua, Lenny-likes. Don't think we should expect any fireworks on main stage, so yet a year of hoping that The Slope will deliver the goods. 

Tbf, i think it’s more Ken wouldn’t know absolutely every act but knows Fontaines are playing 

[Padjeq]

1 hour ago, thetime said:

 

Didn't he just get pissed a lot? I remember being gutted he cancelled Sziget 2022, left us with Holly Humberstone subbing... 

 

He's never been public with his condition, just that he has one, causing him to be shielded during covid. He sings about his illness on stand-alone single Alright.

[49Lawson]

2 hours ago, tmolvik said:

 

Only Fontaines from those three, means no Biffy (not a BIG surprise, but one can always hope) 😞

Yeah I can't lie they're one I had my fingers crossed for, especially since it seems they've appreciated their stock is waning and sliding back down line-ups. (I believe someone had said that was why they had not been at Werchter for years as they were not getting the billing they were hoping for)

[northernangel]

3 hours ago, Floyd_Ams said:

 

I think it's more likely that they'll get a high spot on the main - as high as sub (otherwise, it will be carnage outside the Barn, especially if they put them against a pop or hip hop name). Thursday would seem a strong possibility. I'd love to see them again in any case!

 

And I'm really hoping for Beth Gibbons from that Roskilde announcement.

 

Fontaines into Sam Fender lol.

2 hours ago, tmolvik said:

 

Only Fontaines from those three, means no Biffy (not a BIG surprise, but one can always hope) 😞

With Fender being the second announced headliner, I also think we know where the bar is set this year. Means another year of Måneskin, Dua, Lenny-likes. Don't think we should expect any fireworks on main stage, so yet a year of hoping that The Slope will deliver the goods. 

 

See last reply. 

2 hours ago, Nicklord said:

Dua Lipa is easily bigger than Maneskin, Lenny Kravitz or Sam Fender. I don't think it's even close. 

 

2024 had 2 proper headliners with her and Foo Fighters and those were the only sold out days at the end of the day

 

She is but I'd take Lenny, Dua Lipa, Foos and Maneskin over the idea of Fender and there being another less appealing headliner. I think he's booked booked out of ease personally. They had better options than him making in 3 in 4.

28 minutes ago, 49Lawson said:

Yeah I can't lie they're one I had my fingers crossed for, especially since it seems they've appreciated their stock is waning and sliding back down line-ups. (I believe someone had said that was why they had not been at Werchter for years as they were not getting the billing they were hoping for)

Should be remembered if they weren't there that Biffy are not big in Belgium

[Floyd_Ams]

31 minutes ago, northernangel said:

 

Fontaines into Sam Fender lol.

Sam Fender plays on Saturday (Fontaines are not even available that day) not Thursday 😉 

[northernangel]

11 minutes ago, Floyd_Ams said:

Sam Fender plays on Saturday (Fontaines are not even available that day) not Thursday 😉 

 

Haha fair. To be honest a lot of my best options played this year so should probably consider that. It's going to to be close one between werchter and RAR but if Olivia does Glastonbury and I get a ticket I'll probably get a day ticket for Green Day Download begrungly and knock it off.

[Nikky]

4 hours ago, strudd3rs said:

Fender is in the middle of last years headliners mentioned - bigger than Maneskin but smaller than Dua Lipa

Bigger than Maneskin maybe only in UK. For example in NY he performed in 1200 people venue while Maneskin was in MSG. Maneskin is selling arenas from US to Japan. All continents. I remember in my international group of friends on Sziget festival in 2022 nobody knew who is he.

Edited October 31, 2024 by Nikky

[thetime]

18 minutes ago, Nikky said:

Bigger than Maneskin maybe only in UK. For example in NY he performed in 1200 people venue while Maneskin was in MSG. Maneskin is selling arenas from US to Japan. All continents. I remember in my international group of friends on Sziget festival in 2022 nobody knew who is he.

 

Agree.

 

Mainskin is bigger than fender in mainland Europe, Mainskin was headlining festivals last year.

 

Fender is a weak headliner for Werchter, but the UK people will travel. 

[Codhead]

Sam Fender has been on my hit list for a while, but no way is he headline material yet.

[sisco]

8 minutes ago, thetime said:

 

Agree.

 

Mainskin is bigger than fender in mainland Europe, Mainskin was headlining festivals last year.

 

Fender is a weak headliner for Werchter, but the UK people will travel. 

Tbf, he sold out a Belgium date in minutes the other day

[thetime]

3 minutes ago, sisco said:

Tbf, he sold out a Belgium date in minutes the other day

 

I personally love fender, I don't think he is a werchter headliners.

 

That being said, he is more a headliner than Lenny Kravitz. 

[e2p2]

19 minutes ago, sisco said:

Tbf, he sold out a Belgium date in minutes the other day

Vorst National is not The biggest indoor venue in Belgium, its capacity is about 8k. Artists like London Grammar (sold out), Cigarettes After Sex, Ben Howard, Michael Kiwanuka, Rise Against are all playing there. While I love Sam Fender, I think we should have another headliner to play Saturday, but last year headliners shake my thinking.

Edited October 31, 2024 by e2p2

[sisco]

15 minutes ago, e2p2 said:

Vorst National is not The biggest indoor venue in Belgium, its capacity is about 8k. Artists like London Grammar (sold out), Cigarettes After Sex, Ben Howard, Michael Kiwanuka, Rise Against are all playing there. While I love Sam Fender, I think we should have another headliner to play Saturday, but last year headliners shake my thinking.

Oh I appreciate it’s only 9k, but selling it out in 5 mins (so I was just told) indicates he could have sold lots more tickets.  
 

It’s good that theres a bigger pool of headliners anyway, no point just rotating the same ones, they’ll soon die out!  also you can only book who’s touring. 

[northernangel]

1 hour ago, thetime said:

 

Agree.

 

Mainskin is bigger than fender in mainland Europe, Mainskin was headlining festivals last year.

 

Fender is a weak headliner for Werchter, but the UK people will travel. 

 

Not for him lol

1 hour ago, sisco said:

Oh I appreciate it’s only 9k, but selling it out in 5 mins (so I was just told) indicates he could have sold lots more tickets.  
 

It’s good that theres a bigger pool of headliners anyway, no point just rotating the same ones, they’ll soon die out!  also you can only book who’s touring. 

 

I think you can use that case for anyone though who sells tours quickly, a Rock Werchter headliner should be selling tickets 4/5 times that easily over there combined in venues to headline if you consider he's just sold about £96k tickets in England. It's a weak headliner by any standard over there and their socials don't disagree.

Edited October 31, 2024 by northernangel

[sisco]

5 minutes ago, northernangel said:

 

Not for him lol

 

I think you can use that case for anyone though who sells tours quickly, a Rock Werchter headliner should be selling tickets 4/5 times that easily over there combined in venues to headline if you consider he's just sold about £96k tickets in England. It's a weak headliner by any standard over there and their socials don't disagree.

You can only sell it 4/5 times if you do 4/5 gigs.  He chose to do a small tour for this run and then bigger venues in the summer (and seemingly festivals too)

 

Whatever way you look at it he’s a big artist and he’ll only get bigger with the tour, new album and Glasto/RW headline spots