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8 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Trying to recall the source for this. I dunno if it's gospel....

 

We got the GnR booking in October 2022.  I'm no obstetrician but the timing doesn't really stack up.

 

Timing for the second kid doesn't work.

 

If, as EE has stated in interviews, they try to pencil acts in 2 years ahead, the timing could fit for the first kid.

 

So if she'd provisionally agreed in mid / late 2021 for the 2023 festival, it'd be before the pregnancy happened - the kid was born in May 2022 so plenty of time to change her mind about touring either during the pregnancy or after giving birth.

 

So that'd be "new mum" rather than "pregnant", but it could certainly fit for an intended but cancelled tour that would have included Glastonbury.

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We've had the consensus in here that Sheeran's German shows and the rumour of Olivia Rodrigo doing the only night Sheeran was free on Glasto weekend ruled him out, right? Because I stumbled across the Glastonbury Reddit and they've taken the Metro article as conviction he is doing a headline slot on Radio 1's Big Pyramid Takeover.

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2 minutes ago, charlierc said:

We've had the consensus in here that Sheeran's German shows and the rumour of Olivia Rodrigo doing the only night Sheeran was free on Glasto weekend ruled him out, right? Because I stumbled across the Glastonbury Reddit and they've taken the Metro article as conviction he is doing a headline slot on Radio 1's Big Pyramid Takeover.

 

Sheeran was never going to be playing regardless of O-Rod taking his only "free" night tbh.

 

I keep banging this drum at various times, but I find it generally holds true -

 

People often look at a tour and say "well he's got a free day and XYZ is only a 2 hour flight away, of course he can do it". Sure - technically he can, but that's not a useful way of looking at it.

 

The question I'd ask is more along the lines of - if a Glastonbury headline slot was on the cards, why wouldn't the other dates have been scheduled in a more complementary fashion - ie. leaving a gap of a day or two to make the schedule more balanced and the logistics easier? It's something that could have been done and if he was actually playing Glastonbury likely would have been done.

 

The obviously exception to that is if plans change and someone is a late booking, but I don't think that would be at play here.

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16 minutes ago, incident said:

 

Sheeran was never going to be playing regardless of O-Rod taking his only "free" night tbh.

 

I keep banging this drum at various times, but I find it generally holds true -

 

People often look at a tour and say "well he's got a free day and XYZ is only a 2 hour flight away, of course he can do it". Sure - technically he can, but that's not a useful way of looking at it.

 

The question I'd ask is more along the lines of - if a Glastonbury headline slot was on the cards, why wouldn't the other dates have been scheduled in a more complementary fashion - ie. leaving a gap of a day or two to make the schedule more balanced and the logistics easier? It's something that could have been done and if he was actually playing Glastonbury likely would have been done.

 

The obviously exception to that is if plans change and someone is a late booking, but I don't think that would be at play here.

Well Sheeran not having a UK show so far makes it an easy highlight for someone, I absolutely agree - surely leaving that weekend free rather than sticking two shows in Stuttgart is the way you'd do it to say that you're absolutely heading for the farm.

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10 hours ago, incident said:

 

Timing for the second kid doesn't work.

 

If, as EE has stated in interviews, they try to pencil acts in 2 years ahead, the timing could fit for the first kid.

 

So if she'd provisionally agreed in mid / late 2021 for the 2023 festival, it'd be before the pregnancy happened - the kid was born in May 2022 so plenty of time to change her mind about touring either during the pregnancy or after giving birth.

 

So that'd be "new mum" rather than "pregnant", but it could certainly fit for an intended but cancelled tour that would have included Glastonbury.

 

I mean all the rumours pre 2023 were for her

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Trying to recall the source for this. I dunno if it's gospel....

 

We got the GnR booking in October 2022.  I'm no obstetrician but the timing doesn't really stack up.

 

I mean does she have to be physically pregnant. Surprisingly having a baby changes your life. 

 

It seems a legitimate that a new mum might decide that actually she wants to stay home with her new baby and that touring the world is perhaps not now the great idea it once was. 

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2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Absolutely - which makes me think 2023 was never really that close to happening.  And my memory of the time period is that of all the acts in discussion - Arctics, Taylor, Elton, etc - Rihanna wasn't really among the top candidates.

 

I mean google Rihanna to play Glastonbury 2023 tonnes of press articles linked her to it.  

 

Plus we know as a fact GnR were a replacement as Emily E confirmed it.

 

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3 minutes ago, AVALON.G said:

 

I mean google Rihanna to play Glastonbury 2023 tonnes of press articles linked her to it.  

 

Plus we know as a fact GnR were a replacement as Emily E confirmed it.

 

 

What's the Emily quote / source?  

 

I know that when roughbloke arrived and confirmed Elton and GnR he said the latter was due to Taylor pulling out (unfortunately that thread got lost in forum outage that happened late 23 so I can't find the exact post).

 

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4 minutes ago, AVALON.G said:

 

I mean google Rihanna to play Glastonbury 2023 tonnes of press articles linked her to it.  

 

Plus we know as a fact GnR were a replacement as Emily E confirmed it.

 

 

Most, if not all, of those articles will be based on the one story. It's always the same with these "X to headline Glastonbury" tabloid rumours. One outlet will publish the story, then the others all do the same with an added "according to The Sun" or whoever it was first published it. It's not that they've all had separate pieces of info.

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8 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

What's the Emily quote / source?  

 

I know that when roughbloke arrived and confirmed Elton and GnR he said the latter was due to Taylor pulling out (unfortunately that thread got lost in forum outage that happened late 23 so I can't find the exact post).

 

 

Lol I swear every time Rihanna comes up someone has to get this article 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/mar/03/arctic-monkeys-guns-n-roses-elton-john-all-male-glastonbury-headliners-a-pipeline-problem-says-emily-eavis

 

For bonus

 

https://metro.co.uk/2023/04/09/rihanna-pulled-out-of-glastonbury-2023-headline-slot-over-pregnancy-18580956/

 

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If you're a global superstar and canny entrepreneur with any media savvy whatsoever, if you're asked in an interview if you'd like to play whatever festival, you're never going to say 'No, f**k that, load of stinking hippies and it pays peanuts'. Of course you're going to say you'd love to, it would be thrilling, you've heard a lot about it, always been your dream etc etc

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1 minute ago, AVALON.G said:

 

Case in point. A Metro article quoting a Mail article quoting a "source".

 

I just don't think that she was the lined up act, probably just coping on my side because I've never heard a Rhianna song that didn't make me want to switch it off.

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1 minute ago, AVALON.G said:

 

I see.  That explains the confusion, cos Emily says absolutely nothing about Rihanna in this article.

 

2 minutes ago, AVALON.G said:

 

Again, the timing doesn't stack up for this to be true.

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I mean with never gonna get the absolute truth so sometimes we go with best fit.

 

I think I prefer the narrative of Rihanna pulling out for family reasons. 

 

Than Taylor pulling out then touring anyway feels like a bit of a FU to the festival if that's the truth. 

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20 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

My hairline certainly has. 

 

Depressingly, mine hasn't.  Not because I've warded off the ravages of time, just that I looked middle aged in my 20s

 

Should also add that I bloody wish I was still in my 20s 13 years ago 😂

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1 minute ago, AVALON.G said:

I mean with never gonna get the absolute truth so sometimes we go with best fit.

 

I think I prefer the narrative of Rihanna pulling out for family reasons. 

 

Than Taylor pulling out then touring anyway feels like a bit of a FU to the festival if that's the truth. 

 

I think the latter is closer to the truth.  And I wouldn't think it's a deliberate insult or anything to generate ill feeling.  The show that wound up touring just wasn't going to happen in any form on a festival stage.

 

I'd love Rihanna to do it.  I just don't really see it, particularly in light of the Coachella news - and anyone still thinking it's likely on the basis of some dodgy press from a couple of years back - that doesn't really hold water when scrutinised - is likely to be left high and dry.

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