Avalon Cafe

[Pinhead]

Its there (or at least there is a venue there of the same name), just not the one run by the peeps who have done it for last 20 years.

[Pinhead]

Maybe rival caterer made a better bid / sales / concept pitch... I guess it says that having history at the festival is not a guarantee you'll be asked to return, this year at least.

[incident]

1 hour ago, carlosj said:

I've heard it's part of site cutbacks on Wednesday and Thursday, that's most affecting the smaller sites.

Not the case. This is one of those things where people have made assumptions based on garbled or no information.

You only need to look at the lineup to see that everything that'd normally be operational on Thursday is already confirmed as running this year. The (much smaller) stages that normally operate on Wednesday haven't had their lineups for the day published, but all of the ones I'm aware of will be running as normal.

As has been pointed out - the main change here is the people running the catering provision. Somehow that's been extrapolated into a much bigger story.

[Pinhead]

5 minutes ago, incident said:

Not the case. This is one of those things where people have made assumptions based on garbled or no information.

You only need to look at the lineup to see that everything that'd normally be operational on Thursday is already confirmed as running this year. The (much smaller) stages that normally operate on Wednesday haven't had their lineups for the day published, but all of the ones I'm aware of will be running as normal.

As has been pointed out - the main change here is the people running the catering provision. Somehow that's been extrapolated into a much bigger story.

One wonders whats happened to overturn a 20 year old relationship though.

[incident]

2 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

One wonders whats happened to overturn a 20 year old relationship though.

While it sounds like there's probably something happened there - given that so far neither side is going into specifics (and possibly never will), it seems pointless trying to unpick it.

Could be as simple as a personality conflict, could be they got outbid on a renewal, could be a stylistic change, or could well be something that'd never occur to us.

[Pinhead]

True, though the published statement kind of leads us to do so, indicating they are unhappy with the decision, thus speculating is inevitable.

[wozwebs]

Sounds like they were only just told about it. This is on Glasto Chat FB page. Is it Mean Fiddler’s doing?

Edited June 7, 2022 by wozwebs

[Pinhead]

Sam's Sauna is not there this year either, though this appears to be a personal decision based around wanting to retire for a few years now and fear of covid.

[carlosj]

1 hour ago, assorted said:

It’s concerning to me that the first year they are selling 7,000 more tickets they are also cutting back on stages and places for people to go.

 

17 minutes ago, incident said:

Not the case. This is one of those things where people have made assumptions based on garbled or no information.

You only need to look at the lineup to see that everything that'd normally be operational on Thursday is already confirmed as running this year. The (much smaller) stages that normally operate on Wednesday haven't had their lineups for the day published, but all of the ones I'm aware of will be running as normal.

As has been pointed out - the main change here is the people running the catering provision. Somehow that's been extrapolated into a much bigger story.

My comment was just about Avalon. Yes, the catering's changed, how much music is going to be on, I'm assuming this is also coming out of helping to make up the losses over the past 2 years that I've read about, rather than future ongoing reductions although I've nothing to quote here. 

[Pinhead]

Yes hopefully the MF relationship is not behind this. Certainly the way Bearded was set up this year bore some relationship to having gone in with Rock City on the running of the fest.

[carlosj]

Does Melvin Benn work for MF or Festival Republic? He's back now, so I'm wondering if he's tightening up things like this across the festival. I don't need things to be static, just not tied down and overtly commercialised. 

[Ayrshire Chris]

I recollect that The flying machine cafe who were excellent at worthy view are the ones taking over the cafe. 

[incident]

Just now, Ayrshire Chris said:

I recollect that The flying machine cafe who were excellent at worthy view are the ones taking over the cafe. 

Yep - and this was announced when the Stage lineup dropped a couple months ago so I don't have any trust in the "we've only just been told" claims.

[deebeedoobee]

2 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

I recollect that The flying machine cafe who were excellent at worthy view are the ones taking over the cafe. 

They are also our new landlord and landlady. They are currently asking for acts to perform ( no ticket allocation so must be already attending).

[CaledonianGonzo]

2 minutes ago, incident said:

Yep - and this was announced when the Stage lineup dropped a couple months ago so I don't have any trust in the "we've only just been told" claims.

Definitely rings a bell, so fair shout: they must have been told a fair while back.

[Ayrshire Chris]

3 minutes ago, deebeedoobee said:

They are also our new landlord and landlady. They are currently asking for acts to perform ( no ticket allocation so must be already attending).

Good news that a local business gets the gig though I will miss them up at WV. Now there’s surely a wealth of talent on e festivals who would love to take the stage at Glastonbury! 

[incident]

5 minutes ago, deebeedoobee said:

They are also our new landlord and landlady. They are currently asking for acts to perform ( no ticket allocation so must be already attending).

Do you mean asking acts to perform for the Wednesday?

They do already have a reasonably full lineup published for Thursday to Sunday.

[strummer77]

32 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

Yes hopefully the MF relationship is not behind this. Certainly the way Bearded was set up this year bore some relationship to having gone in with Rock City on the running of the fest.

I know a couple of people locally who seem to have been sidelined/their nose out of joint. Don’t know the ins and out of it but they were cussing Benn/MF

[Pinhead]

Yeah I wonder if he's approaching it more agressively than in 2002 when they went in with him for 4-5 years... The relationship is different to what it was then and with different reasons behind it.

[Julesdude]

Why would Benn/MF come back anyway? The relationship began back when the super fence went up and he and Eavis parted ways some years ago, which tbh I was pretty ok with. Why the return?

[Pinhead]

The relationship is financial rather than political this time around.

[Poorside.2]

2 minutes ago, Julesdude said:

Why would Benn/MF come back anyway? The relationship began back when the super fence went up and he and Eavis parted ways some years ago, which tbh I was pretty ok with. Why the return?

Benn is back already and its Festival Republic he works with. 

Runs Electric picnic here in Irealnd and getting more commercial by the year, areas that were free-flow were changed the last time out.

[Pinhead]

Hopefully Emily will keep him on a long leash...

[deebeedoobee]

51 minutes ago, incident said:

Do you mean asking acts to perform for the Wednesday?

They do already have a reasonably full lineup published for Thursday to Sunday.

It doesn't mention any particular day on the FB post

https://fb.watch/dvowcxhqN-/

[Beergirl]

1 hour ago, Pinhead said:

Sam's Sauna is not there this year either, though this appears to be a personal decision based around wanting to retire for a few years now and fear of covid.

Ah that's a shame! Sam's was literally yards from my tent in Undleground. Sauna and a shower was the perfect way to start the day. Great coffee cart too 😞