news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Always optomistic stevie 😂…. 
 

they’ll be so much shit on these guys … if it’s Sunak surely Boris will stick the knife in … then we have DC lurking and he’ll have some stuff 

tenner?

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

tenner?

I’d not take your money …. The infighting has already started … Boris ain’t going quietly … . Labour need to keep it together . Starmer also develop a bit more personality … people seem to gravitate to that . I agree with @Ozanne within the year is possible and that’s if we don’t get disorder and riots . Tough times ahead 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

ok...maybe I won't bet a tenner on Truss lasting a decade...but I could put money on Sunak becoming PM.

[steviewevie]

Liz wrote this with some of her fellow buccaneers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained

(the book, not the wikipedia entry)

[steviewevie]

28 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Within a year they’ll a general election and lose I think. 

they'll only call an election if they are confident they will win.

[steviewevie]

She could just ride it out for next few years...blame any shit on previous governments and EU/Russia/China/snowflakes...then have an election in 2024 when worst of cost of living is over and economy is starting to grow and things feel like they're improving and labour divisions are becoming worse again....

[steviewevie]

and Johnson isn't unpopular because of his policies, he's unpopular because he's a lying w*nker. Now, I don't know Truss, but I don't think she'll make the same mistakes and is the same sort of person, she more than likely has a pretty boring social life and there isn't a lot of dirt on her, so it will be down to her policies...and...hate to say it but tories keep winning, despite everything...so maybe a lot of people like their policies...

Edited July 20, 2022 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

and then she'll win her election...and then comes the tax cuts...and everyone loves tax cuts...and then comes the state spending cuts...but on things that are unpopular...maybe get some of those scounger/skiver headlines in the papers again...snip snip...and net zero?...too damaging, other countries aren't pulling their weight, why should we?...and these long hot summers are pretty good anyway...let's review that...especially as our true friend Trump is back in the whitehouse...etc

In short I am not optimistic with Truss as PM as others seem to be. Hopefully she'll be as much of a disaster as some think she'll be.

Edited July 20, 2022 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

I guess one hope for labour is tory party infighting will get so bad that labour look a more stable prospect.

[Neil]

BORIS IS GOING TO HAVE THGE MOST CHILDISH SULK, AND SABORTAGE  the new pm.

 

 

[steviewevie]

If tories were in oppostion I'd be pleased...like when they chose Duncan Smith and then Howard, but they're not, they are in government.

[pink_triangle]

I think personality matters. The last PM without charisma to have a good election result was Major 30 years ago.

[Ozanne]

Liz Truss is awful, she’ll be a disaster for the Tories as leader. 

[pink_triangle]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

BORIS IS GOING TO HAVE THGE MOST CHILDISH SULK, AND SABORTAGE  the new pm.

 

 

I think Boris is supporting Truss because he thinks she will lose.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I think Boris is supporting Truss because he thinks she will lose.

I don't know...all these conspiracy theories. She was loyal to him, that means a lot.

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I think Boris is supporting Truss because he thinks she will lose.

supporting truss cos he thinks sunak is a traitor.

[Ozanne]

I’m really happy, this could actually be the beginning of the end for them.

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m really happy, this could actually be the beginning of the end for them.

I've heard that so many times before, not been true yet!

[pink_triangle]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I don't know...all these conspiracy theories. She was loyal to him, that means a lot.

Boris cares only about Boris. The best thing for his legacy is for his success to bomb.

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m really happy, this could actually be the beginning of the end for them.

well, let's see. Sorry for the pessimism...just old, bitter and twisted.

The only person to be elected as labour PM who was born in the last 100 years was Tony Blair. How's that for a stat. And he was hardly a true socialist peacenik. And now Scotland has gone. It is so easy for the tories to win, just a few giveaways leading up to an election...and another 4/5 years. Most of my life has been thinking this will surely be it, and it isn't.

(and I still think they might elect Sunak anyway)

[Ozanne]

39 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

well, let's see. Sorry for the pessimism...just old, bitter and twisted.

The only person to be elected as labour PM who was born in the last 100 years was Tony Blair. How's that for a stat. And he was hardly a true socialist peacenik. And now Scotland has gone. It is so easy for the tories to win, just a few giveaways leading up to an election...and another 4/5 years. Most of my life has been thinking this will surely be it, and it isn't.

(and I still think they might elect Sunak anyway)

Cheer up mate, the Tories are gonna eat themselves alive over the next few weeks and Labour are already ahead in the polls. Even if Labour don’t win, try to enjoy the current situation!

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

13 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

where bristol leads others follow. 😄 

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Lol. Truss is going to be our next pm. Just watch the papers back her and it is a done deal. What an odd country we live in.