news & politics:discussion

[Zoo Music Girl]

23 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

1 week leadership contest?

If they can do it in a week, why did it drag on so much before?!

I can see someone standing unopposed to get it sorted.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Relief I guess! Kwarteng looked pretty happy after he was sacked too.

So what now? Got to be Rishi?

A week long story leadership contest then BAU.

Your guess is as good as mine for the winner, Rishi would be my guess but it depends on a few others. 

[lost]

1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

 

I can see someone standing unopposed to get it sorted.

Hunts already confirmed he wont run.

[Guest]

Just now, Zoo Music Girl said:

If they can do it in a week, why did it drag on so much before?!

I can see someone standing unopposed to get it sorted.

Because that contest went to the membership, this one isn’t (and they realise they can’t have another 8 week long one again).

[Kurosagi]

Was watching tory mp Tobias Ellwood on Politics Live at lunchtime who was trying to keep his shit together. He did a *really* good job of revealing just how riven by divisions the tory party is.

Steviewevie would have loved it because it ended up being a debate about how the tory party was fucked because they'd lurched to the right with the ERG crowd and so were at open war with the one nation centrists. He was pleading for a more centrist reality check. Tissue paper between the one nation centrists and Starmer...if Truss had stayed on I could have seen some peeling away of tory mps towards Labour...might still happen...

[Zoo Music Girl]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Because that contest went to the membership, this one isn’t (and they realise they can’t have another 8 week long one again).

I know, I wasn't asking seriously. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

Just now, Kurosagi said:

Was watching tory mp Tobias Ellwood on Politics Live at lunchtime who was trying to keep his shit together. He did a *really* good job of revealing just how riven by divisions the tory party is.

Steviewevie would have loved it because it ended up being a debate about how the tory party was fucked because they'd lurched to the right with the ERG crowd and so were at open war with the one nation centrists. He was pleading for a more centrist reality check. Tissue paper between the one nation centrists and Starmer...if Truss had stayed on I could have seen some peeling away of tory mps towards Labour...might still happen...

I saw this too. Was an interesting debate.

[maelzoid]

3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

So she has gone...  Not one sorry...  Fuck off Liz..  Even her lectern was wonky...  Easily the worse PM in history...

You have a short memory... She's not even the worst PM this year.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Just now, maelzoid said:

You have a short memory... She's not even the worst PM this year.

It's a hotly contested field.

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Relief I guess! Kwarteng looked pretty happy after he was sacked too.

So what now? Got to be Rishi?

rirshi or spaffer i reckon.

at least it won't be spelling mistake.

[Justiceforcedave]

Just now, Neil said:

rirshi or spaffer i reckon.

at least it won't be spelling mistake.

There is no way it can be spaffer. 

[Guest]

I mean the worst is clearly Johnson, just look back at everything he did/didn’t do.

[mattiloy]

7 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Relief I guess! Kwarteng looked pretty happy after he was sacked too.

So what now? Got to be Rishi?

Nah, Sunak is still despised by the membership. Mordaunt would be a better shout. But who honestly knows what goes through the collective mind of the tory party membership.

[Zoo Music Girl]

There have been a lot of prime ministers and I imagine there are some right shockers a couple of hundred years ago.

[Kurosagi]

4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

They should go to the public and live with the outcome.

Beeb talking head was suggesting that the next PM would be wise to acknowledge the need for electoral mandate and so make a commitment to hold a GE in the summer and use that as a deadline to focus the tory party into unity. Although can't see it happening myself.

[lost]

Too soon for Boris if he came back it would be after this investigation if he mislead parliament.

Between Rishi and Penny for me and if Penny has been bought off with foreign secretary

[Kurosagi]

1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

There have been a lot of prime ministers and I imagine there are some right shockers a couple of hundred years ago.

Well there are some hilarious names on this list:

 

[maelzoid]

Truss was certainly not up to the task, but I'll take her gross incompetence over BJ's self-serving dishonesty and bigotry any day of the week,

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 minute ago, Kurosagi said:

Well there are some hilarious names on this list:

 

Bonar Law?! Haha

[Guest]

Rishi Sunak was 2nd in a recent poll of Tory members behind Johnson so I’m guessing it’s going to be Rishi. 

[Guest]

Just now, maelzoid said:

Truss was certainly not up to the task, but I'll take her gross incompetence over BJ's self-serving dishonesty and bigotry any day of the week,

I think there’s a level of misogyny with people that happily ignore all of Johnson’s failures and claim Truss is the worst ever. 

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Nah, Sunak is still despised by the membership. Mordaunt would be a better shout. But who honestly knows what goes through the collective mind of the tory party membership.

they don't have a mind.

[maelzoid]

5 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

You have to be so fucking blinkered to say that.  He didn't crash the entire UK economy ffs.

As if Truss managed that in 44 days. Johnson's fingerprints are all over the current shitshow, Truss was just the one to give it the nudge of the cliff.

Anyone who thinks she inherited an economy that was in robust shape would be in your words 'so fucking blinkered'.

[Kurosagi]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

I think its likely personally.  3 to 6 month election is impossible not to have I think.

I expect it's less about who is PM and most of the arguments behind the scenes will be about a sharing out of the cabinet jobs to make sure it's a cabinet of 'unity'. It's likely to be a puppet PM whose main job will be keeping a grip of cabinet divisions long enough to make it to the next GE.

[Kurosagi]

5 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Bonar Law?! Haha

Yep, he was my choice...a pity he didn't have a title though.