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[steviewevie]

Don't worry about fines...look over there!

 

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Don't worry about fines...look over there!

 

Yeah, definitely a dead cat

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

Yeah, definitely a dead cat

tory MPs will love it though...and many voters too.

[squirrelarmy]

9 minutes ago, Neil said:

Yeah, definitely a dead cat

I think we need to put Larry in protective custody. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Don't worry about fines...look over there!

 

This is so fucked up. What is even the cost of sending people to Rwanda? Seems so ridiculous.

[Neil]

9 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

This is so fucked up. What is even the cost of sending people to Rwanda? Seems so ridiculous.

if non-taxpayers can have an AFRICAN HOLIDAY FROM THE GOVT SHOULDNT TAXPAYERS GET ONE TOO.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Just now, Neil said:

if non-taxpayers can have an AFRICAN HOLIDAY FROM THE GOVT SHOULDNT TAXPAYERS GET ONE TOO.

I mean I know that's not the main thing that's wrong with it, I'm just wondering how they can even justify the cost to their anti-immigrant base.

[Zoo Music Girl]

I suppose the main point of the policy is to deter asylum seekers coming here at all. Duh me.

[steviewevie]

41 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

This is so fucked up. What is even the cost of sending people to Rwanda? Seems so ridiculous.

yeah, it is so wrong on so many levels, and probably unworkable...I guess the idea is to put people off, and also a nice bit of red meat for tories and it triggers remainy liberals like me.

[squirrelarmy]

[Rufus Gwertigan]

1 hour ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

I suppose the main point of the policy is to deter asylum seekers coming here at all. Duh me.

Single male asylum seekers. I can see many that get picked up leaving their families at the border.

Thank fuck I voted Brexit.

 

[charlierc]

I'm more confused as to what's in this for Rwanda. Especially as at least 2/3 other countries said no.

[charlierc]

On 4/12/2022 at 10:43 PM, Ryan1984 said:

The local elections feel like make or break for them. Expect lots of culture war stuff over the next couple of weeks. I’m sure the BBC and trans people/the ‘woke brigade’ will all come in for a bashing.

Presumably we can add this morning's asylum seeker announcement is part of that. Though feels like a short-term fix and more fines would push that story right back to the top of the agenda.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I'm more confused as to what's in this for Rwanda. Especially as at least 2/3 other countries said no.

Oh, so they have been asked then? 

[Zoo Music Girl]

5 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I'm more confused as to what's in this for Rwanda. Especially as at least 2/3 other countries said no.

Yeah they must be getting some kind of bonus for it? 

[charlierc]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Oh, so they have been asked then? 

Well Albania and Ghana both said no and I feel like I read another country also declined.

Edited April 14, 2022 by charlierc

[Justiceforcedave]

I guess weirdly I'm going to enjoy watching how farcical the defense of Johnson gets. How far can and will they go?
"He's said he's sorry and yes 12 fines seems like a lot.... but is it really?"

[Rufus Gwertigan]

9 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I'm more confused as to what's in this for Rwanda. Especially as at least 2/3 other countries said no.

173 million sweetener

[Kurosagi]

3 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

15 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I'm more confused as to what's in this for Rwanda. Especially as at least 2/3 other countries said no.

173 million sweetener

Not just the money. A mate has recently come back from Rwanda doing a story on their Umuganda policy ("coming together in common purpose"), which is a mandatory and countrywide community service for the entire population that takes place on the last Saturday of each month. There's a lot of rebuilding of the country that still needs to be done and because their average age is only 19 they would perhaps be more favourable towards adult refugees (along with the sweetener) than other African countries.

[Guest]

This is it, focus on the costs as that will turn more people off this. 

[steviewevie]

will be article 16 next...job done. Good old boris.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

This is it, focus on the costs as that will turn more people off this. 

do people give a shit about the cost? They just want to see some suffering.

[steviewevie]

34 minutes ago, Kurosagi said:

Not just the money. A mate has recently come back from Rwanda doing a story on their Umuganda policy ("coming together in common purpose"), which is a mandatory and countrywide community service for the entire population that takes place on the last Saturday of each month. There's a lot of rebuilding of the country that still needs to be done and because their average age is only 19 they would perhaps be more favourable towards adult refugees (along with the sweetener) than other African countries.

it's like a new slave trade triangle...

[squirrelarmy]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

it's like a new slave trade triangle...

That would only be complete if they started using Ukrainian labour to extract Rwandan resources to be shipped back to the UK. 
 

I wouldn’t put that idea past this current bunch of incompetents. 

[steviewevie]

What is labour's response? They don't want to upset any of those lovely red wall voters....must look tough on immigration. Maybe they'll suggest sending them to N Korea or something.