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[Ozanne]

Johnson said ‘no parties’ originally. 

[steviewevie]

33 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Johnson said ‘no parties’ originally. 

yeah, he lied...it was party central. But, also...police didn't see any reason to investigate up until just before Gray was to release her report. Whole thing stinks.

[Ryan1984]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

Johnson said ‘no parties’ originally. 

In the House of Commons as well? (When he fell for Starmer’s trap/smarts). Didn’t lying in there used to be quite a serious offence?

[Ozanne]

Shit. He’s going to get fined!

[hodgey123]

And the Chancellor. Is this it for both of them?

[Ozanne]

 

[Ozanne]

Just now, hodgey123 said:

And the Chancellor. Is this it for both of them?

I doubt it, he’ll cling on somehow as it’s all that matters to the Tories. 

[squirrelarmy]

Convenient for them to be issued while they’re on holiday so won’t get a grilling in the commons tomorrow. 
 

Are these notices the legal equivalent of a speeding ticket? Although against the law it doesn’t give you a criminal record or are they a higher level. 
 

Surely it is now absolute proof that the lying twat did lie in Parliament and has to be called out on it. 

[pink_triangle]

20 hours ago, lost said:

On a related note apparently Creagh is going to run for labour in Corbyn's seat next election. That'll be one to watch.

To me parachuting someone in just on the basis they hate Jez would be a big mistake and probably lead to defeat.

[pink_triangle]

6 minutes ago, hodgey123 said:

And the Chancellor. Is this it for both of them?

I think politically avoiding fines when everyone else gets them looks like a cover up and would be worse. I suspect they will try and say it's bo different to a speeding fine and hope people move on.

[Ozanne]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Convenient for them to be issued while they’re on holiday so won’t get a grilling in the commons tomorrow. 
 

Are these notices the legal equivalent of a speeding ticket? Although against the law it doesn’t give you a criminal record or are they a higher level. 
 

Surely it is now absolute proof that the lying twat did lie in Parliament and has to be called out on it. 

They don’t give them a criminal record but it is a sign of criminality.

He should clearly go for this, no PM should be allowed to stay in Office after having been found to break the law. 

Edited April 12, 2022 by Ozanne

[ian the worm]

[steviewevie]

16 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Shit. He’s going to get fined!

woah.

Yeah, he won't resign...he must have known this was coming...and likely MPs will continue to back him for now...but this has got to be damaging him and the tories big time with a lot of voters...and oppostion parties can keep bringing this up again and again during an election campaign....one rule for them and all that.

[steviewevie]

Nice timing seeing that parliament is on recess.

[pink_triangle]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

woah.

Yeah, he won't resign...he must have known this was coming...and likely MPs will continue to back him for now...but this has got to be damaging him and the tories big time with a lot of voters...and oppostion parties can keep bringing this up again and again during an election campaign....one rule for them and all that.

I think it would be big if an election was round the corner, but will be quickly forgotten by the next one .

[steviewevie]

so if Sunak now resigns...

[Ozanne]

Recent polling suggests people aren’t forgetting about Partygate.

[Ozanne]

20 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Convenient for them to be issued while they’re on holiday so won’t get a grilling in the commons tomorrow. 
 

Are these notices the legal equivalent of a speeding ticket? Although against the law it doesn’t give you a criminal record or are they a higher level. 
 

Surely it is now absolute proof that the lying twat did lie in Parliament and has to be called out on it. 

 

18 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

They don’t give them a criminal record but it is a sign of criminality.

He should clearly go for this, no PM should be allowed to stay in Office after having been found to break the law. 

Just to add to this. The PM could appeal the FPN in Court, if he’s found guilty from that then he would get a criminal record. 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I think it would be big if an election was round the corner, but will be quickly forgotten by the next one .

it may be...but will also just add to the general feeling that Boris and pals are privileged toffs who think they're above their own laws. Bojo was the brexit hero...man of the people...but he's just taking the piss.

[squirrelarmy]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Just to add to this. The PM could appeal the FPN in Court, if he’s found guilty from that then he would get a criminal record. 

He won’t appeal. It will just be added to his expenses. 
 

Quick edit. Has it said how many fines Spaffer has been issued. There were multiple breaches of lockdown at his residence. 

Edited April 12, 2022 by squirrelarmy

[steviewevie]

Carrie Johnson fined too. Hilarious.

[Ozanne]

1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said:

He won’t appeal. It will just be added to his expenses. 

He’s said before he will appeal. 

[squirrelarmy]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

He’s said before he will appeal. 

Do you believe anything he says? 😂

[steviewevie]

If this is true that's got to be pretty annoying for rishi...

 

[steviewevie]