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47 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

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One part of this image was shared earlier but it gives a good comparison between there UK and the rest of the continent.


I don't know if Ireland has been deliberately excluded here as it also has a very high electricity price at the mo. Because its energy supply is based chiefly on oil and gas. Italy too gets most of its power from oil and gas.

This + the fact that there is in excess of 100% difference in prices within the EU supports the fact that it is very much the extent to which a country derives its energy supply from oil and gas, and not whether or not it has membership in the EU, which determines the price of electricity within that country.

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3 minutes ago, mattiloy said:


I don't know if Ireland has been deliberately excluded here as it also has a very high electricity price at the mo. Because its energy supply is based chiefly on oil and gas. Italy too gets most of its power from oil and gas.

This + the fact that there is in excess of 100% difference in prices within the EU supports the fact that it is very much the extent to which a country derives its energy supply from oil and gas, and not whether or not it has membership in the EU, which determines the price of electricity within that country.

look, it's because of brexit, ok? Same with the pandemic.

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43 minutes ago, mcshed said:

Excepting the fact that those EU countries with lower energy prices tend to use way more coal than we do. 


True for many but some smaller nations manage mainly on renewables. The UK being an island on the edge of the atlantic should be able to achieve the scale to follow suit.

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19 minutes ago, mattiloy said:


True for many but some smaller nations manage mainly on renewables. The UK being an island on the edge of the atlantic should be able to achieve the scale to follow suit.

Obviously we should be pushing renewables for apocalypse avoiding purposes but if we really wanted price stability then coal or nuclear would be the way forward.

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1 hour ago, mcshed said:

Obviously we should be pushing renewables for apocalypse avoiding purposes but if we really wanted price stability then coal or nuclear would be the way forward.



Well price stability would be achieved with more diversity generally. All power is subject to potential supply side issues. Nuclear is the most steady but even that has risks: Uranium isn’t mined in the UK, maybe not even europe? So you’re at the whim of geopolitics, plus its so centralised that if your one or two plants go down because of some issue or other, you’re fucked whilst if its flat calm around the windfarms of the dogger bank, it might be blowing a gale in the irish sea.

In addition, the long run trend of renewable power is always going to be downwards, and towards more stability, as technologies improve - the same can’t be said for energy that depends on a finite resource.

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2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

This is going to create a big hoo-ha

 

 

Join labour today - for social democracy without any of the bothersome socialism or democracy!

 

Always thought Starmer was just an idiot. Increasingly starting to think he’s actually a malevolent force, auld trilateral Keith

 

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