Extra security

[mph]

Extra security? Anywhere?  I feel safer at gigs or festivals than I do if I walk through my home town at 11 at night, and this is is a town that "terrorists" would not attack 

[guypjfreak]

1 hour ago, mph said:

Extra security? Anywhere?  I feel safer at gigs or festivals than I do if I walk through my home town at 11 at night, and this is is a town that "terrorists" would not attack 

You Must be in Swindon then.. Lol 

[dartmoordog]

I can't substantiate this, but I was told,  by someone well connected, that there was considerable "extra security" at last years festival.

We just didn't see it or know that it was there.

Which is the way it should be. 

[guypjfreak]

2 hours ago, mph said:

Extra security? Anywhere?  I feel safer at gigs or festivals than I do if I walk through my home town at 11 at night, and this is is a town that "terrorists" would not attack 

You Must be in Swindon then.. Lol 

[guypjfreak]

Another incident in London... Fucking animals 

 

[Smeble]

Looks like there's another incident in London, hopefully nobody hurt, guarantees security will be shit hot in June 

[Smeble]

16 years since I left the army, I'm almost tempted to join up again.

[mrfunk]

50 minutes ago, dartmoordog said:

I can't substantiate this, but I was told,  by someone well connected, that there was considerable "extra security" at last years festival.

We just didn't see it or know that it was there.

Which is the way it should be. 

Definitely saw a lot more festival goers with earpieces last year  

found as always security top notch... well the professionals anyway...

 

boomtown is just a mess with there very handed security 

[Smeble]

2 minutes ago, mrfunk said:

Definitely saw a lot more festival goers with earpieces last year  

found as always security top notch... well the professionals anyway...

 

boomtown is just a mess with there very handed security 

Good security isn't vsible to the general public

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

51 minutes ago, Smeble said:

Good security isn't vsible to the general public

Pretty lame statement to make, because nor is the majority of good terrorism visible to the general public. We only really get to experience the violent finale.

 

[Franky]

As I said earlier in this thread. They only have to get lucky once, we have to get lucky every single time to stop them. 

Sad world at the moment but don't let it effect your glasto. 

[simian_mobile_mushrooms]

18 minutes ago, Franky said:

As I said earlier in this thread. They only have to get lucky once, we have to get lucky every single time to stop them. 

Sad world at the moment but don't let it effect your glasto. 

Well said, and it makes you realise how good our services are already when the failed plots outnumber the successes. Hope everyone parties twice as hard to show these nutters that it's not going to stop us having the best time ever

[Penrhos]

Let's face it - the scumbags will go for the "Soft target" - so where Glastonbury's concerned that'll be the bus & train stations on the way there. There would be too many variables against success inside the event.

 

All that will happen is more people will get criminal records for drugs possession - as the police need to keep us safe.

 

Download is next weekend so that'll be the acid test, we'll know how much they're going to ramp up security after next weekend - think they were using facial recognition tech on the queues last year anyway (to pick out thieves and drug dealers).

[Smeble]

1 hour ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

Pretty lame statement to make, because nor is the majority of good terrorism visible to the general public. We only really get to experience the violent finale.

 

If I had a down vote left you would be getting it

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

11 minutes ago, Smeble said:

If I had a down vote left you would be getting it

Can you explain why?

[whisty]

4 hours ago, guypjfreak said:

Another incident in London... Fucking animals 

 

Am working 2 minutes away from there, whole area in lockdown! There are no words that accurately describe the perps.

[M_Il]

15 hours ago, Raincatcher said:

I just can't see any potential terrorists going through the bother of trying to get a ticket in the first place! It's not as if the Manchester attacker bought a ticket to the gig at the MEN. The most obvious target at Glastonbury would be the queue and any more searches at the gates would only make this more of a target, both to remove the bag search from the equation and due to the increased size of the queue if more searches are implemented.

Quite simply, there are many easier options when it comes to something to attack. 

I don't foresee Glastonbury festival becoming a target however a would be attacker doesn't need a ticket just copy what others have done using a vehicle through any of the vehicle gates to the festival. 

[Pink_Tequila]

4 hours ago, M_Il said:

I don't foresee Glastonbury festival becoming a target however a would be attacker doesn't need a ticket just copy what others have done using a vehicle through any of the vehicle gates to the festival. 

Not that straightforward to drive straight through a vehicle gate at Glastonbury 

[Franky]

8 hours ago, simian_mobile_mushrooms said:

Well said, and it makes you realise how good our services are already when the failed plots outnumber the successes. Hope everyone parties twice as hard to show these nutters that it's not going to stop us having the best time ever

There are literally 100's of attempts stopped every year.

[frostypaw]

4 minutes ago, Franky said:

There are literally 100's of attempts stopped every year.

This is not true. They said there'd been something like 13 "potential" ones in the last five years, which translates as far fewer actually resolving into focus (link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39176110)

Don't let them win - keep it in perspective, obviously without dismissing these things as irrelevant. Most importantly of all note how simplistic and basic these attacks are. This isn't like having a guerrilla army here, it's really nothing even compared to casual nutter shootings in the States. If we start overreacting they're winning

It's a few random disorganised desperate nutters. All this talk of wildly deporting anyone suspicious etc is exactly what they want - reinforce the "christian crusade against islam" line that they preach, entirely prove their claims that the west are 100% against islam and trying to force them to give up their religion etc. No screw that - we're stronger than that and that's not who we are.

[Franky]

3 minutes ago, frostypaw said:

This is not true. They said there'd been something like 13 "potential" ones in the last five years, which translates as far fewer actually resolving into focus (link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39176110)

Don't let them win - keep it in perspective, obviously without dismissing these things as irrelevant. Most importantly of all note how simplistic and basic these attacks are. This isn't like having a guerrilla army here, it's really nothing even compared to casual nutter shootings in the States. If we start overreacting they're winning

It's a few random disorganised desperate nutters. All this talk of wildly deporting anyone suspicious etc is exactly what they want - reinforce the "christian crusade against islam" line that they preach, entirely prove their claims that the west are 100% against islam and trying to force them to give up their religion etc. No screw that - we're stronger than that and that's not who we are.

Ok then, you believe what's reported in the media. I have said my piece and am now leaving this thread.

[simian_mobile_mushrooms]

5 minutes ago, frostypaw said:

This is not true. They said there'd been something like 13 "potential" ones in the last five years, which translates as far fewer actually resolving into focus (link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39176110)

Don't let them win - keep it in perspective, obviously without dismissing these things as irrelevant. Most importantly of all note how simplistic and basic these attacks are. This isn't like having a guerrilla army here, it's really nothing even compared to casual nutter shootings in the States. If we start overreacting they're winning

It's a few random disorganised desperate nutters. All this talk of wildly deporting anyone suspicious etc is exactly what they want - reinforce the "christian crusade against islam" line that they preach, entirely prove their claims that the west are 100% against islam and trying to force them to give up their religion etc. No screw that - we're stronger than that and that's not who we are.

It's def not as high as hundreds, I agree but thy're clearly organised. You could say it is like having a guerrilla army too. What was it, something like 3,000+ potential jihadis being monitored. That's about the size of the BNP. Also, I'm really not looking for an argument, but actually deporting potential people and their familiies is probably the last thing they want. They want to be here, so they can do stuff like last night

[frostypaw]

Why do you think they're organised? We've seen one person able to assemble a bomb in how many years? The rest has been seriously amateur hour stuff. I'd bet if you sat down for an hour to think about it you could come up with a better plan.

And 3000+ people being monitored is everyone who's been flagged in any way so all the people travelling to and fro from those countries, all the preachers, anyone who's sounded angry, everyone who's made a poor taste joke etc - it's really not very impressive out of population of 65million to have 0.0046% concerning. 

They want to be proven right, what you're suggesting proves them right and means loads of those people who are hearing IS's message and thinking "No wait, that's not how I experience life here" instead think "No wait..... IS are spot on, they've got it right."

Now's the time to be strong and say no - you will not win.

[Mr.Tease]

7 minutes ago, simian_mobile_mushrooms said:

It's def not as high as hundreds, I agree but thy're clearly organised. You could say it is like having a guerrilla army too. What was it, something like 3,000+ potential jihadis being monitored. That's about the size of the BNP. Also, I'm really not looking for an argument, but actually deporting potential people and their familiies is probably the last thing they want. They want to be here, so they can do stuff like last night

You say you're not looking for an argument but are posting ambiguous, potentially provocative statements (which may not be but its hard to tell because of the ambiguity!)

[guypjfreak]

6 hours ago, whisty said:

Am working 2 minutes away from there, whole area in lockdown! There are no words that accurately describe the perps.

Shit man You OK old son.. Stay safe yea we gotta have a drink in 18 days