Bring Me The Horizon

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22 minutes ago, dreadwing said:

To name a few heavier acts that would probably go down well at Glastonbury

Deftones (I'd love this to happen, they play reading festival every now and again)

Slipknot (Cannot deny they are the most commercially successful metal of the past 2 decades, everyone knows who they are and they put on a bloody good show)

Killing Joke (think along the lines of motorhead, similar size and audience)

Tool 

Faith no more

Jane's Addiction

Queens Of The Stone (Not quite metal, but are a heavy band, who have headlined before)

Even Limp bizkit could headline the other stage.

Now name a heavier band that haven't been going for 20+ years

[Chris Lfc]

21 minutes ago, dreadwing said:

To name a few heavier acts that would probably go down well at Glastonbury

Deftones (I'd love this to happen, they play reading festival every now and again)

Slipknot (Cannot deny they are the most commercially successful metal of the past 2 decades, everyone knows who they are and they put on a bloody good show)

Killing Joke (think along the lines of motorhead, similar size and audience)

Tool 

Faith no more

Jane's Addiction

Queens Of The Stone (Not quite metal, but are a heavy band, who have headlined before)

Even Limp bizkit could headline the other stage.

But acts like slipknot will probably never go to glastonbury so the whole BMTH thing is more realistic than any other band. It makes more sense also because they're more "mainstream" now specially since they headlined reading/leeds.

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38 minutes ago, dreadwing said:

To name a few heavier acts that would probably go down well at Glastonbury

Deftones (I'd love this to happen, they play reading festival every now and again)

Slipknot (Cannot deny they are the most commercially successful metal of the past 2 decades, everyone knows who they are and they put on a bloody good show)

Killing Joke (think along the lines of motorhead, similar size and audience)

Tool 

Faith no more

Jane's Addiction

Queens Of The Stone (Not quite metal, but are a heavy band, who have headlined before)

Even Limp bizkit could headline the other stage.

Out of those, the only ones big enough to headline the Other Stage are Slipknot, Tool and QOTSA. All three of them get headline slots at other festivals they play at so I don't know why they'd accept an Other Stage slot at Glastonbury, rather than headlining somewhere like Download, R&L or IOW (QOTSA).

In addition to that, BMTH are a band on the rise, and Glastonbury giving prominent slots to these kinds of acts is what it's all about. They're on the brink of becoming festival headliners (at DL and perhaps R&L; obviously not Glasto) and the exposure they'll get from an Other Stage headline slot will do them the world of good.

Trust me, there are a shit load of heavy acts I'd rather see, but none make more sense than BMTH.

I just hope we get a few more heavy bands dotted around. ATDI and Mastodon in the JP, for example. Deftones and Jane's Addiction on the Other Stage. NIN headlining it when they're next around.

[dreadwing]

19 minutes ago, dip said:

Now name a heavier band that haven't been going for 20+ years

system of a down?

Nickleback?

Paramore?

18 minutes ago, Chris Lfc said:

But acts like slipknot will probably never go to glastonbury so the whole BMTH thing is more realistic than any other band. It makes more sense also because they're more "mainstream" now specially since they headlined reading/leeds.

No, but they would put on a better show

[LeCecil]

13 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

Out of those, the only ones big enough to headline the Other Stage are Slipknot, Tool and QOTSA. All three of them get headline slots at other festivals they play at so I don't know why they'd accept an Other Stage slot at Glastonbury, rather than headlining somewhere like Download, R&L or IOW (QOTSA).

In addition to that, BMTH are a band on the rise, and Glastonbury giving prominent slots to these kinds of acts is what it's all about. They're on the brink of becoming festival headliners (at DL and perhaps R&L; obviously not Glasto) and the exposure they'll get from an Other Stage headline slot will do them the world of good.

Trust me, there are a shit load of heavy acts I'd rather see, but none make more sense than BMTH.

I just hope we get a few more heavy bands dotted around. ATDI and Mastodon in the JP, for example. Deftones and Jane's Addiction on the Other Stage. NIN headlining it when they're next around.

Deftones: Not big enough to headline Other. Would be a good booking if they wanted to increase the heavier bands though as they're one of few bands to maintain their relevance in the genre over a span of time.

Slipknot: Way too big elsewhere to play

Killing Joke: Not big enough/relevant enough

Tool: Would fit the stage well, but I doubt they'd accept the slot when they can headline Download. Wouldn't agree to being filmed either so the exposure argument can't be used.

Faith no more: Not metal. Would be an EXCELLENT band to headline Other though.

Jane's Addiction: Not big enough anymore.

Queens Of The Stone Age: Latest album as good as it was is the least heavy they've made, nowhere near metal anymore. Would be a good booking, but on the next album cycle I could see them headline whatever they played so probably wouldn't consider it.

 

As much as I'm not huge on BMTH they are the perfect band to headliner other if a heavy/metal band is wanted. From next year onwards they will be headline level (nailed on to headline download next year) and will be "above" the slot so to speak. They have a large mainstream crossover so should draw casual fans too.

 

To be honest I'd prefer the focus to be on better/more relevant bands in the scene like Mastodon, Baroness, Dillinger Escape Plan (probably a bit too heavy). They wouldn't headline but are the kind of bands that even not metal fans can usually appreciate.

Edited January 25, 2016 by LeCecil

[LeCecil]

18 minutes ago, dreadwing said:

system of a down?

Nickleback?

Paramore?

 

SOAD and Nickelback have been going for/over 20 years now. Nickelback are also WAY more known for their radio hits rather than the heavier parts of their catalogue.

Paramore is closer to a radio rock, foo fighters style band, than BMTH.

[Gucci Piggy]

We don't want BMTH but we'll have Nickel back instead? Fuck me.

[dreadwing]

10 minutes ago, LeCecil said:

SOAD and Nickelback have been going for/over 20 years now. Nickelback are also WAY more known for their radio hits rather than the heavier parts of their catalogue.

Paramore is closer to a radio rock, foo fighters style band, than BMTH.

pffft system of a down 22 years and nickleback 21.

All the good heavier bands have been going 20+ years.

38 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

I just hope we get a few more heavy bands dotted around. ATDI and Mastodon in the JP, for example. Deftones and Jane's Addiction on the Other Stage. NIN headlining it when they're next around.

Something like this would be a great. Chuck in Dillinger escape plan somewhere, because musically they are incredibly talented.

[dreadwing]

I was a fan of BMTH way back on their first EP and i have seen them live a few times. However my taste now varies from all types of music from jazz and hip-hop to DNB to metal.

I Just don't understand how they could headline the other stage of Glastonbury, I know they have got big very quickly but there are so many more heavier bands that could and should headline the other stage over them.

Pretty sure if they do end up headlining, I cant see it going down well and people would attended out of curiosity then walk away, especially if they play earlier stuff.

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16 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

We don't want BMTH but we'll have Nickel back instead? Fuck me.

This thread is decending into chaos 

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1 hour ago, dreadwing said:

I was a fan of BMTH way back on their first EP and i have seen them live a few times. However my taste now varies from all types of music from jazz and hip-hop to DNB to metal.

I Just don't understand how they could headline the other stage of Glastonbury, I know they have got big very quickly but there are so many more heavier bands that could and should headline the other stage over them.

Pretty sure if they do end up headlining, I cant see it going down well and people would attended out of curiosity then walk away, especially if they play earlier stuff.

There really aren't that many more heavier acts that 'could' headline it over them.

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"Bring Me The The Horizon"

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On a serious note, if the festival wants to book a band of this ilk, they deserve it more than anyone I can think of.

I'm not a fan but I'm sure there will be others who will want this to happen. Enjoy it folks.

 

[paulmuchmore]

Well I'm a fan and will be seeing them if they're at Glasto.

Sure, there's probably a load more 'credible' metal acts who you can argue deserve it/are bigger, but they'll on the whole be playing/headlining at festivals more suited to their genre. BMTH are popular right now, and like it or not, that's what Pyramid and Other headliners at Glastonbury generally are these days. Pop acts.

For me, it makes a nice change from the dance acts that usually top the bill on the Other.

[dentalplan]

Just now, thatcrazypenguin said:

well then thats the point in booking a heavy act? thats exactly the argument im making, do it properly or not at all.

They're booking a popular act. One that just happens to be 'heavy'.

[paulmuchmore]

And surely introducing this kind of act to Glastonbury can only be a good thing? If they go down well, it could be a gateway to more rock/metal acts appearing on the line-up. 

Rock and metal are becoming increasingly niche in the mainstream compared to dance/R&B, so the fact they are being considered as big enough for this kind of slot as a current act doing well is pretty impressive.

@thatcrazypenguin You say do it properly or not at all, who do you suggest who is big enough and relevant enough in that genre to headline the Other?

I've just seen your suggestions up the page and as much as you'd like them, they'll never headline the Other at Glasto. They just wouldn't pull the crowds. Very rarely do you get an act without a degree of 'pop' to them.

Edited January 25, 2016 by paulmuchmore

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1 hour ago, thatcrazypenguin said:

the argument seems to be about how bmtth are more `mainstream` then most metal acts so able to draw a larger crowd.......id argue well that overrules the point of booking a heavy act......if your going to do it do it properly, if your worried about them being a chart act you may as well book another pop/inside/dance act and be done with it!

I would also argue while bmtth are more popular as far as the charts go, a lot of there fanbase is even less likly to head to a fest like glastonbury then previous heavy acts, they are very much the trendy teeny metal fan crowd who consider any fest but download as `uncool`  they feed the topshop metal crowd, the kids who think kerrangs top 10=whos who in the world of rock and metal, the kids who go to gigs wearing tops saying `punk` written in glitter with no idea of the irony they have just turned themselves into......what im saying is you say bmtth would attack a large crowd? I think not! better to have a more well known long term heavyweight of the genre, youd get a larger crowd, oldies, youngies, and the rest who were curious, then an on trend `popular in the moment` metal band who attract the type of fans who just wouldnt be seen at glastonbury.

and that comes from a metal fan as you know

Metallica were worthy of a headline slot because they are legends with appeal across a wide variety of people, genres and fans....bmtth simply are not any of those things,

Part of me would like to see glasto go all out with these bookings, if your going to book a few heavy acts, dont go for the enter shikaris and your bmtths dont just tip your toes heastintly into the `popular with the mainstream heavy bands` cliche.....go for your lamb of god, machine head, megadeth, slayer, sepultura (who incidentally I think would be an awesome fit for glastonbury with the amount of world music that influences their sound) among many others-show glastonbury what a real metal show is like!

Itd shake things up, itd be something totally leftfield and that is what this festival needs to start doing again.....because if your just going by fucking chart success to book your headliners....you may as well be fucking v fest!

rant over.

 

It's the same with any genre, you probably just don't notice it because you aren't into those genres. Want an indie act headlining Other? You're going to get a mainstream on like Jake Bugg, rather than more interesting, niche ones. Want a dance act headlining Other? You're going to get a mainstream one like Rudimental or Deadmau5.

1 hour ago, TomViolence said:

 

"Bring Me The The Horizon"

He thinks they're called Bring Me To The Horizon for some reason.

1 hour ago, thatcrazypenguin said:

why do they deserve it? there are many many bands who have been kicking ass for a lot longer then they have who deserve a shot on the big stage, just because they happen to have the right image to get the charts biting them doesnt mean there music stands up to many many bands in their genre, they were an average metalcore band who now they play crap watered down chart rock designed to sell rather then excite.

as a fan of the genre nothing is more frustrating then seeing bands like bmtth hailed as representative of it to the mainstream.....its like fucking scooter being hailed as the face of dance music....give me a break lol

No it isn't, it's like admitting the likes of Rudimental are the current popular names in dance. BMTH are one of the current popular names in metal, whether you like it or not.

None of these acts you're suggesting would draw big crowds. You're the most out of touch poster I think I've ever seen on here.

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1 hour ago, thatcrazypenguin said:

why do they deserve it? there are many many bands who have been kicking ass for a lot longer then they have who deserve a shot on the big stage, just because they happen to have the right image to get the charts biting them doesnt mean there music stands up to many many bands in their genre, they were an average metalcore band who now they play crap watered down chart rock designed to sell rather then excite.

You continue to say this but won't suggest any relevant examples.

And in case you haven't noticed, a lot of acts are booked and placed based on their overall popularity... regardless of how crap you personally think they are.

Edited January 25, 2016 by TomViolence

[Chris Lfc]

Still don't get half this discussion.. If you organise a festival and you're looking for a metal band who're currently popular, headlined festivals in the past, still making albums, have new tracks then obviously you would chose BMTH? People seem to doubt them because either they don't like them or because theirs an older band (who would never headline or wouldnt be suited for glastonbury) who're better than them. But right now these guys are the most popular band and are still selling out so it makes sense right?

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10 minutes ago, Chris Lfc said:

Still don't get half this discussion.. If you organise a festival and you're looking for a metal band who're currently popular, headlined festivals in the past, still making albums, have new tracks then obviously you would chose BMTH? People seem to doubt them because either they don't like them or because theirs an older band (who would never headline or wouldnt be suited for glastonbury) who're better than them. But right now these guys are the most popular band and are still selling out so it makes sense right?

Yeah it makes perfect sense. Although what festivals have they headlined?

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On 1/25/2016 at 7:08 PM, Will-2609 said:

Yeah it makes perfect sense. Although what festivals have they headlined?

Well they didn't headline but they put on a show at reading/leeds from what i saw in the vids. Not my perfect taste in music but the peoples reaction seemed like they loved it. I don't think i meant the word "headline" but sell out? yeah. And tbh i would actually like to see them lol.

Edited January 25, 2016 by Chris Lfc

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Just now, Chris Lfc said:

Well they didn't headline but they put on a show at reading/leeds from what i saw in the vids. Not my perfect taste in music but the peoples reaction seemed like they loved it. I don't think i meant the word "headline" but sell out? yeah.

Yeah I haven't seen the show but from what I heard of that and their arena shows, they've got a headline setup now which would be perfect for an Other headline slot.

[Chris Lfc]

On 1/25/2016 at 7:13 PM, Will-2609 said:

Yeah I haven't seen the show but from what I heard of that and their arena shows, they've got a headline setup now which would be perfect for an Other headline slot.

I seen the full one on youtube and it was pretty good, although this is also good aswell. They brought avalanche out just last year and a new album so if its any sort of band these guys will surely will a shot at glastonbury if they're available.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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