Lineup 2015

[eFestivals]

A metal band who promotes Nazi values... which Rammstein, of course, most certainly aren't.

tho of course it's possible to still cast that image in your mind, as the result of all the nazi imagery we've been exposed to.

[eFestivals]

Presumably guitarbhoy1888 is referring to 'any metal from Germany'.

someone reported it to me as racist, on the basis of that.

While I can see how it might be taken as meaning that, it can be taken in other ways too - the music of Queen (early albums) always conjours up images of fog, and moors, and Sherlock Holmes, and Hounds of the Baskervilles, to me.

So i've chosen to give the benefit of the doubt, rather than assume the worst intent.

[ClemFandango97]

See you there brutha

Me too

[JSmurphy]

The Libertines

Two Door Cinema Club

Alt-J

The 1975

Enter Shikari (NME)

deadmau5 (Dance Tent)

The Prodigy

The Vaccines

Bring Me The Horizon

Modestep

Franz Ferdinand (NME)

Chase & Status (DJ Set) (Dance Tent)

Red Hot Chilli Peppers

The Black Keys

Rise Against

Royal Blood

Knife Party (NME)

DJ Fresh (Dance Tent)

[Andre91]

Deadmau5 is WAAAAY too big to headline the Dance Tent. He would headline the NME if he played.

[Muppetmark]

Deadmau5 is WAAAAY too big to headline the Dance Tent. He would headline the NME if he played.

I think he's too big for that, though his popularity seems to have peaked.

[TheSilence]

By the time R&L comes around, the Libs won't be such a good booking anymore, most of the people who'll want to see them will probably have seen them this or next year.

And they'll still probably be booked.

[Gucci Piggy]

Same with AM, QOTSA and Paramore this year to be fair. Anyone who wanted to go their gigs could have done so last year. Plenty of Libs fans won't go to the gigs, or would happily see them again.

[TheSilence]

Yeah, to be fair I don't know how die hard Libs fans tend to be but we all know that with AM, their fans would follow them around the world if they could so I suppose its probably the same with Libs.

[Muppetmark]

By the time R&L comes around, the Libs won't be such a good booking anymore, most of the people who'll want to see them will probably have seen them this or next year.

And they'll still probably be booked.

also there are plans for a new album.

[guitarbhoy1888]

someone reported it to me as racist, on the basis of that.

While I can see how it might be taken as meaning that, it can be taken in other ways too - the music of Queen (early albums) always conjours up images of fog, and moors, and Sherlock Holmes, and Hounds of the Baskervilles, to me.

So i've chosen to give the benefit of the doubt, rather than assume the worst intent.

cheers.

to clear things up, it was meant in no way to upset anyone

sincere apologies if it did.

like i say though. fantastic live show !

[#FreeComTruise]

Com the Exiled

[Babyquack]

Haha, so The Black Keys' arena tour next year falls at the end of Feb/start of March and the first thing I though was, well that's handy for them to be announced for R&L, the tour'll finish just before announcement day

I know that's not logic, it's stupidity to assume anything but hey, could happen

[mrtourette]

cheers.

to clear things up, it was meant in no way to upset anyone

sincere apologies if it did.

like i say though. fantastic live show !

It would be interesting to know what you did mean though, if 'Nazi' and 'German' are interchangeable terms that mean the same thing to you it would explain the understandable (if stupid) use of the word.

[mrtourette]

As TIT says; ATDI in 2012 and they got a particularly poor crowd by the accounts I've heard. Not sure how Mastodon or Billy Talent did in the tent though but I just assumed since they got a new head booker person, that the increase of 'heavy' acts on main and introduction of a Rock Stage were moves that took some of that out of the NME.

ATDI were up against Kasabian so they were never going to get a massive crowd. I left halfway through The Cribs myself, both they and Mastodon seemed to have decent crowd which like you say apparently dropped off.

By the very nature of the set up it's unlikely that both the main stage and NME headliners will get 'decent' crowds, and it will always go with the more mainstream option rather than the credible one (Pendulum, Maccabees, Kasabian and KOL against Arcade Fire, The Cure, ATDI and FNM being the most obvious cases of that swing in recent years). I don't think it's just 'heavy' music that suffers.

[lightning1000]

It would be interesting to know what you did mean though, if 'Nazi' and 'German' are interchangeable terms that mean the same thing to you it would explain the understandable (if stupid) use of the word.

I don't think that's where he was coming from at all. He was talking specifically about rammstein.

I think it's just a misconception about that particular band that he's latched onto.

Look at their debut album cover, it took them years to convince the German public they had no neo Nazi affiliations after that came out. Guitar boy isn't the first to make that incorrect assumption regarding rammstein.

[guitarbhoy1888]

It was purely a comparison that I think rammstein sound very angry and full of propaganda on record

If you have even heard nazi, anti-Semitic music, which I in no ways condone, that's pretty much what that sounds like.

Was said in a purely tongue in cheek manner

In no way find it acceptable to just change 'nazi' and 'German' at will

[mrtourette]

I think you're digging yourself into a bigger hole with that 'it's what Nazi, anti-Semitic music sounds like' comment, but I get what you mean. Apologies if I suggested you thought all Germans were Nazis.

Edited July 15, 2014 by mrtourette

[guitarbhoy1888]

Listen

It's purely an opinion that that's what their music sounds like to me

Well draw the line there

In no way meant to offend and tbh don't see why that opinion is digging a bigger hole.

Dont see why a hole was dug in the first place.

Well leave it at that eh ?

[Dead throne]

Mandatory Slayer post.

[Yellow_Fellow]

It was purely a comparison that I think rammstein sound very angry and full of propaganda on record

Do you speak German?

Also; Nazi music tends to be a lot more extreme. More like speed metal and proper hardcore punk.

[mrtourette]

You're both making terrible generalisations about 'Nazi music'. I don't recall reading about the Hitler Youth singing anything like that.

[mrtourette]

Listen

It's purely an opinion that that's what their music sounds like to me

Well draw the line there

In no way meant to offend and tbh don't see why that opinion is digging a bigger hole.

Dont see why a hole was dug in the first place.

Well leave it at that eh ?

"Listen" I'll leave it where I want to "eh".

I was happy to leave it at my apology but you getting a but ratty about it and wanting the final word, and to be able to tell people to stop talking about it, makes me suspicious. I don't think you really have any idea what you're talking about.

Edited July 15, 2014 by mrtourette

[TheSilence]

"Listen" I'll leave it where I want to "eh".

I was happy to leave it at my apology but you getting a but ratty about it and wanting the final word, and to be able to tell people to stop talking about it, makes me suspicious. I don't think you really have any idea what you're talking about.

Come on, Tourette. I think he was just trying to avoid confrontation. Allbeit in an ironically slightly confrontational way I guess.

[mrtourette]

Yeah fair enough I'm just on the wind up. People who make a mistake but then try and tell people it's time to stop discussing said mistake usually set me off.