eFestivals Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Why would it subtract from them making money? if people have seen them at Glasto then they won't pay premium prices to see them elsewhere. It's really that simple, and it's very standard music biz practice. The Roses will sell these dates out on Friday, and I'd assume that they would then be free do what they want. not if the contract for those shows says that they can't do other shows, and it's exceedingly likely that it does. I've not heard anywhere that these dates are exclsive Melvin Benn pretty much confirmed that they are a couple of months ago. I think they're more likely than the Rolling Stones to be honest. My view is the complete opposite (unless they perhaps - just perhaps - do a 'secret' show at Glasto, but if that happens that'll only be sorted out a month or three before the fest). Edited October 31, 2012 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Vern Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 its because Shane Meadows was filming a dvd release of their reunion, due out later this year i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Maybe Stone Roses as a rolling stones replacement? Say Jaggers says no In Jan, and all tickets have sold out for their own gigs. Then, as long as they are not announced until April, then it wouldn't hurt their own ticket sales. Would fit in with what Emily says. My only ( minor) reluctance to completely rule them out is that i've seen no publicity saying those dates are the only UK gigs of the year. I assume (unless the own gigs promoters are complete idiots) that they would use that as a selling point if it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 My only ( minor) reluctance to completely rule them out is that i've seen no publicity saying those dates are the only UK gigs of the year. I assume (unless the own gigs promoters are complete idiots) that they would use that as a selling point if it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 If they hadn't been announced for say Isle Of Wight (forinstance) yet - as say a Festival exclusive, then they couldn't say that. [incidentally - Isle Of Wight probably need something like that to ensure good ticket sales in 2013 to address the mudddy reaction] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Maybe Stone Roses as a rolling stones replacement? Say Jaggers says no In Jan, and all tickets have sold out for their own gigs. Then, as long as they are not announced until April, then it wouldn't hurt their own ticket sales. Would fit in with what Emily says. I guess that could happen. The point I'm trying to make is that I believe that Emily's words are truthful for how tyhings stand at the moment. My only ( minor) reluctance to completely rule them out is that i've seen no publicity saying those dates are the only UK gigs of the year. I assume (unless the own gigs promoters are complete idiots) that they would use that as a selling point if it was. The gigs announced so far don't have to be the only ones this year to rule Glasto out via an exclusivity clause. And that's because it's exceedingly likely that all of their shows (however many there are) have been done via the same promoter - Simon Moran (SJM) - and so he'll have a handle on everything they're doing. Simon will certainly want the big paying shows from a business point of view. If he lets them do Glasto on the cheap, that'll lose him the audience for at least one big paying show that he could be profiting much more from. The promoter will have a contract with the band. That contract will explicitly stipulate what other shows they can or cannot do within a particular geographic area and within a particular timeframe. For a band of the size of the Stone Roses and them playing only huge shows, then it would be the one of the biggest music biz contractual cock-ups of all time if it didn't stop them doing other shows. Melvin's words made it clear that they're contractually tied down for next summer, and that Glasto couldn't be done. I think I've stated the blindingly obvious enough now. Those that don't accept it now probably wouldn't believe it from Ian Brown's mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I guess that could happen. The point I'm trying to make is that I believe that Emily's words are truthful for how tyhings stand at the moment. The gigs announced so far don't have to be the only ones this year to rule Glasto out via an exclusivity clause. And that's because it's exceedingly likely that all of their shows (however many there are) have been done via the same promoter - Simon Moran (SJM) - and so he'll have a handle on everything they're doing. Simon will certainly want the big paying shows from a business point of view. If he lets them do Glasto on the cheap, that'll lose him the audience for at least one big paying show that he could be profiting much more from. The promoter will have a contract with the band. That contract will explicitly stipulate what other shows they can or cannot do within a particular geographic area and within a particular timeframe. For a band of the size of the Stone Roses and them playing only huge shows, then it would be the one of the biggest music biz contractual cock-ups of all time if it didn't stop them doing other shows. Melvin's words made it clear that they're contractually tied down for next summer, and that Glasto couldn't be done. I think I've stated the blindingly obvious enough now. Those that don't accept it now probably wouldn't believe it from Ian Brown's mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Lana Del Ray has Uk and European dates announced for May/June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtourette Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 God yeah she's got to be a shoe-in, and one early contender for the 'Janelle Monae Award For Being On The BBC Red Button Glastonbury Coverage Every Fucking Minute Of Every Fucking Day'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu H Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Frankie Valli and the 4 Seasons?! Manchester Arena, Monday 17 Jun 2013 Bournemouth International Centre, 20 Jun 2013 Birmingham LG Arena, Sunday 23 Jun 2013 London Royal Albert Hall, Tuesday 25 Jun 2013 London Royal Albert Hall, Wednesday 26 Jun 2013 Touring UK in June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu H Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Joe Satriani? Joe Satriani, the US rock guitarist announces a 10 date 2013 UK tour, Manchester O2 Apollo, June 8th Glasgow, Royal Concert Hall, 9th Newcastle, City Hall, 10th Liverpool, Philharmonic Hall, 11th Bristol, Colston Hall, 12th Wolverhampton, Civic Hall, 13th Sheffield, City Hall, 15th Portsmouth, Guildhall, 16th London, O2 Shepherds Bush Empire, 17th London, Indigo2, 18th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somersetsun Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Joe Satriani would firmly remove me from the 'we missed RIP download tickets, I don't really want to go to Glastonbury but I'll go cos you wanna go & hate every minute of it' doghouse I'm currently in with the boyfriend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruwise Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Green Day are playing Emirates Stadium on 1st June, and I got all excited until I checked the rest of their tour dates for next year, which include: June 23rd - St Petersburg, Russia June 28th - Bravalla Festival, Sweden June 30th - Oslo, Norway. Bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruwise Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 How about Chas & Dave. They are playing up until May and I believe it is due to be their last ever tour so how about final ever gig opening up the Pyramid Stage on the Friday morning? I think that would be fab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeye Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Simple Minds are gigging March/April 2013; wouldn't mind them pitching up somewhere/sometime over the Glastonbury period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 How about Chas & Dave. They are playing up until May and I believe it is due to be their last ever tour so how about final ever gig opening up the Pyramid Stage on the Friday morning? I think that would be fab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA4 4BY Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 How about Chas & Dave. They are playing up until May and I believe it is due to be their last ever tour so how about final ever gig opening up the Pyramid Stage on the Friday morning? I think that would be fab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruwise Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 With them being a local band the month gap wouldn't be such a big deal. It's not like a band that is doing worldwide tours but it wouldn't be their last ever show if they are down to do shows in August. I still think in the Rolf Harris mode they could be a great opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somersetsun Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Rihanna announced for June next year. Gap at end... Cant link but was on LN email this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Sigur Ros at Roskilde the weekend after Glasto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) Rihanna announced for June next year. Gap at end... Cant link but was on LN email this morning. Edited November 14, 2012 by 5co77ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza_20 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 26-May Bilbao, Spain BEC 28-May Lisbon, Portugal Pavilhao Atlantico 01-June Barcelona, Spain Palau San Jordi 02-June Montpellier, France Montpellier 03-June Lyon, France Halle Tony Garnier 05-June Antwerp, Belgium Sportpaleis 08-June Paris, France Stade de France 10-June Cardiff, Wales Millennium 12-June Manchester, United Kingdom Manchester 15-June London, United Kingdom Twickenham 17-June Birmingham, United Kingdom LG Arena 20-June Sunderland, United Kingdom Stadium of Light 23-June Amsterdam, Netherlands Ziggo Dome 26-June Cologne, Germany Lanxess Arena 29-June Zurich, Switzerland Hallenstadion 02-July Berlin, Germany O2 World 09-July Vienna, Austria Stadthalle 20-July Helsinki, Finland Hartwall Arena 22-July Stockholm, Sweden Globen 25-July Oslo, Norway Telenor 26-July Bergen, Norway Bergenhus Castle & Fortress - Koengen Not much of one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 27th and 28th free, she then has a gig 29th, and two days free and they are then all within easy europe travel. and as for TITP, there is a massive gaping hole, I'm almost shocked if that doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunk pumpkin Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 just seen that Rod Stewart is touring ion June next year. Not sure i fancy a bit of Rod TBH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somersetsun Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Yeah fair play. I was on my phone in a hospital ward (fine) and only saw Brit dates. Hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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