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[The Nal]

Yeah that's a good shout actually, interfering when he isn't even in the match will give him even more heat.

And I read something this morning about how the Main event is purely Vince's decision. The creative team have zero input and they only other people who may be consulted about how it should be booked are Triple H and Paul Heyman.

Last year Taker losing was 100% Vince. No one knew. Apart from the people who needed to.

[CHRLY]

I've always assumed Seamus would return and win the Battle Royale

[daniel.k]

I think the Battle Royal being bumped down to the pre-show could mean the plan for the title match (would say main event but it might not be) has changed due to the Lesnar signing news. Maybe a longer main event with something going on after it, as long as it isnt a MITB cash in.

Lesnar could lose the title to Reigns, go mad with rage and smash up the ring and announce table. Next night on Raw, Lesnar and Heyman come out, Heyman seems to turn on Lesnar saying he isnt as much of a beast as he thought he was, Lesnar F5's him and turns face in the process. Dont know how Reigns would fit in, with that idea he wouldnt need to turn heel or anything, but then lesnar would be the face of the company for a bit now WWE know the crowd dont want Reigns. Its maybe safe to say no one has a concrete theory on what is going to happen now, which is kind of good

Edited March 27, 2015 by daniel.k

[metallimuse]

I just can't see Lesnar turning on Heyman.He doesn't need him for a face turn but if he goes heel again he will.Heyman is just as much a part of his character as Lesnar is.

[Elbear]

In this 'reality era' Brock is the perfect tweener. He's gonna get cheered against some, booed against others. A full fledged babyface turn would be good if there were believable heels to beat him. There are no tough guy heels anymore, so I can't really buy Brock getting beaten by one. Regardless, Reigns most definitely walks out with the title.

[luckysalt]

I just can't see Lesnar turning on Heyman.He doesn't need him for a face turn but if he goes heel again he will.Heyman is just as much a part of his character as Lesnar is.

I agree and they've done Heyman and Lesnar split before, I think what makes Lesnar so popular apart from his ability is his character is believable, he's very real, and people know how close Lesnar and Heyman are, if Heyman was to turn and join with Reigns people would shit on it because they know Lesnar is Heymans guy.

Lesnar can still be a super over face with Heyman in toe, he doesn't need to ditch him. Hell people love Heyman anyway!

[jump]

In this 'reality era' Brock is the perfect tweener. He's gonna get cheered against some, booed against others. A full fledged babyface turn would be good if there were believable heels to beat him. There are no tough guy heels anymore, so I can't really buy Brock getting beaten by one. Regardless, Reigns most definitely walks out with the title.

I'd say Rusev is a tough heel.

[daniel.k]

I'd say Rusev is a tough heel.

For now he is, but the WWE might stop pushing him when he loses to Cena.

If Cena wins the US title and Reigns wins the World title, would WWE go for another face champion with Bryan winning the IC? I cant see Cena losing, but the other two title matches could realistically go either way. I dont think we will have 3 face champions come RAW the next night

[metallimuse]

I see Paddy Power now has Lesnar and Reigns even pegging in the odds now.

[When Jokers Attack]

I see Paddy Power now has Lesnar and Reigns even pegging in the odds now.

I stuck a couple of accumulators on the other day,

Bray Wyatt was at 3/1

[daniel.k]

I see Paddy Power now has Lesnar and Reigns even pegging in the odds now.

Who was the favourite before the contract signing?

I stuck a couple of accumulators on the other day,

Bray Wyatt was at 3/1

Bray isnt winning, I just dont see why Taker would come back just to get pinned again. If it was a buried alive match I could see him losing and that being his way of leaving for good

[luckysalt]

Hall of Fame was fantastic

Warrior award was very very moving.

Bushwhackers were so funny after that, I really needed that.

[metallimuse]

I was bored.Just couldn't get into it at all.

[G-Stud]

Well, I won't be watching live tonight so I'll be pretty much on an internet embargo tomorrow.

As much as recent Rumbles and Manias have disappointed me, I still get a buzz knowing that I'll be watching Wrestlemania soon!!

[metallimuse]

Does the preshow start at 10 or 11 tonight?

[bocumaroy]

Doing my annual watching of the wrestling.

Pretty good so far. I'd have liked the ladder match to go on a bit longer, but plenty of good spots, and that RKO just then was a thing of beauty. Pleased with both outcomes. Sting vs Trips on now, a lot earlier than I'd expected.

[When Jokers Attack]

Haha Rollins. Incredible.

[When Jokers Attack]

Haha Rollins. Incredible.

[metallimuse]

The whole think was good,I wasn't blown away.

[When Jokers Attack]

I agree. mainly solid stuff all night but nothing classic match quality wise IMO.

Main event easily match of the night and I'm not just saying that because of the finish, loved the pace and the realism of the match. Lesnar is the man and Reigns done great.

Rock promo was 10 minutes too long and ive been saying for ages rousey is Wwe bound (I actually said to friends earlier today she will be in wwe within next two years), I think it's a one off angle for now but planting seeds for next year. not read or looked into anything but I'm guessing cross promotion with ufc. Dana White was even tweeting about it.

Sting/HHH was an fun but overbooked mess, was like a nitro main event. I guess I liked it because of who was all involved. HHH entrance was amazing.

Time for Taker to hang it up,, most forgettable match of the night.

Rollins/Orton good match and outstanding ending sequence.

Ladder match was good and glad Bryan won, let's get this title back to meaning something again.

Tag match was also decent.

Edited March 30, 2015 by When Jokers Attack

[Andre91]

Loved WrestleMania overall. It's safe to say that I marked out MASSIVELY for Seth. That was incredible. Absolutely brilliant booking. His reaction was so genuine too, you could see how much winning that title meant to him after all the years of busting his ass. The way he was swinging the title over his head was great

The main event was the match of the night. As soon as Lesnar came out, it just had that BIG match feel. It was like a prize fight. The match itself was great. I'll give Reigns his due, he took an absolute pounding and dished it out too. He looked legit tough, just as Brock always does too. The boos Reigns got made me feel a little sorry for him, but then again, he's getting the strongest reastion out of anyone in the company, and that's the name of the game.

Bray Wyatt vs. Undertaker was a little disappointing, but I enjoyed it a lot anyway. Wyatt should have been made to look stronger, but damn Taker looked infinitely better that last year (looks wise). It was like seeing The American Bad Ass again Its obvious that he can't really 'go' anymore though, he looked exhausted after such a short match.

Divas match was better than I expected, if not predictable. Good God Paige looked unreal.

Rusev vs. Cena was the second best match of the night for me. Rusev's entrance was incredible, best of the night by a mile for me. He looked like a monster. Cena winning is what I was expecting.

Sting vs. Triple H was horrible. Just an absolute mess. The whole DX/NWO thing was ridiculous, an overbooked mess that made little sense after Sting came out on RAW to make a point of his business not being about WCW vs. WWE. And why would the NWO come out to aid the guy who spent years trying to tear then down in their prime!? Seeing Hall take that bump wasn't good, I genuinely cringed and worried for his health. The match itself was poor, really slow paced. It was amazing to see Sting at WrestleMania, but, as most were expecting (myself NOT included), he looked his age for the most part. The ending to the match was terrible, yet unsurprising. Vince just had to put that final nail in the WCW coffin. Oh, and the entrances were poor too. THEY DIDN'T USE THE CROW THEME that's actually my biggest gripe with this match. Triple H's entrance was really cheesy.

Orton vs. Seth was a decent match, the finish was a real cool thing to see, the crowd ate that up.

Great to see Bryan win the IC Title, but sad to see what a difference a year makes. Good match overall, that Ambrose bump looked nasty.

The Battle Royal wasn't anything great. I was surprised they gave it to The Big Show, especially because of how over Mizdow was. I thought he had it in the bag.

The tag match was actually really good for me, really good pace and full of some cool spots.

Oh and RONDA ROUSEY! That was so cool. The segment went on too long, but it was great. Dana White must have been blinded by all of the dollar signs he could see last night.

Overall, a bloody decent Mania for me. As I've said, the Seth Rollins ending was absolutely perfect. The crowd gave him such a pop and you could genuinely see how much it meant to him. Sending the crowd home happy is always best for business (excuse the pun ) and that's exactly what they did last night.

Edited March 30, 2015 by Andre91

[luckysalt]

Watched all 6 hours of it live last night and only woke up 30 mins ago, damn that was a good Mania.

My only gripe was HHH-Rock segment went WAYYYYY too long, seriously I think it went over 30 mins in all.

I enjoyed every match, the main event was so good, I agree with pretty much everything Andre wrote above so I won't repeat him.

Regarding WWE Network, first PPV I've watched live on there, It held up well, few occasions the quality dropped for about 30 secs- 1 minute, and about twice it froze for a few seconds and once it did a loop and showed me 5 seconds of what id just seen again.

So all in all that was fine I think. Really it should be perfect, but fair enough I'll let them off with those minor issues.

[Elbear]

What in the name of God was that weird springboard stunner Cena pulled out? That was absolutely brilliant. It was all a plus from me. The nostalgia act of NWO vs DX was nice, even if it was 17 years too late. Regardless, thoroughly enjoyed myself. Pumped for Raw tonight.

What surprises should we expect tonight? Sheamus returning is on the cards and a Taker-Sting showdown seemly, but I'm not seeing it. Hopefully Brock's involved in some capacity.

On a side note, I'm not a big fan of blood in wrestling, but Lesnar being busted open last night totally added to the match and added to the story perfectly.

[DomDom1984]

I made a pretty long post on another forum. It'll probably make arguments that relate to none on here, so if you read stuff thinking "eh?", that's why.

* The ladder match was pretty much exactly what I wanted from it. Just a bunch of guys going out there and throwing big spots out and giving us an exciting showcase. Thought the Ambrose spot was beyond stupid though. That's the most brutal ladder break spot I've seen yet. With the rest of them, the landing was much better. That was like the Awesome/Tanaka head drop powerbomb. No need. Still good to watch at the time though. Cracking way to open a show.

* Rollins and Orton was just brilliantly put together stuff. Orton when he brings his A game is one of the most crisp guys in WWE. He's like one of those Hart types where everything just rolls nicely together, and Rollins is one of the most improved guys there's been in WWE, and both guys got the chance to tear it down. Plus... that ending. Magnificent.

* Then you had Triple H and Sting. As soon as they said it was No DQ, I perked up a bit. This was one of the matches where I thought "they'll need a stip to make it work". They gave it one. And it worked. HHH was hurt during this one as well, which makes the pacing of the opening, and the bumping he was doing a big surprise. Then when the shenanigans kicked in, it got all mark out worthy. DX vs. now had me going mental. This is probably one of those matches it's best for me not to go back and watch, but at the time, it was wonderful stuff, and that's the point.

* The way that the divas started, I thought we were going to get a good fast paced midcard battle, but the longer it went, the messier it got, and I kinda lost interest at the end.

* Cena vs, Rusev. Pretty good stuff. Given Cena's ability to carry a garden hose to a reasonable match, I shouldn't have been surprised that when given a decent amount of time, he can do it with Rusev. I'm not sure what a Cena win does for anyone really, but it's Rusev he beat, so I can live with that. Problem is though, Rusev is clearly still a character that can get reactions when they lay it on thick. When he came out on that tank last night, the crowd got pretty hostile. A wonderful entrance. Rusev is a character that has been working for WWE, and as much as I don't like the guy, is it really a good idea just to have him be another guy to feed to Cena? I suppose it's one of those guys who might only work in the short term, and WWE are getting out early. Anyways, another good match on the show.

* The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt. It's hard to judge The Undertaker in this one. He's not the guy to be carrying guys to great matches anymore. He's not got it. So basically, you put him in there with someone like Bray Wyatt, who isn't really all that he's cracked up to be, then you're not going to get a great match out of them. As it happens, I thought this was tedious as f**k. Couldn't be bothered with it. Basically knowing exactly how the match was going to go didn't really help. Bray Wyatt is a main event type character though. I've maintained that for a while, and I want to see the guy do something. He's one of the guys who will probably work in the long term. But it can't if they have him lose a match which is basically utterly meaningless to him. He challenged a broken down old man and lost. And unfortunately, The Undertaker looked very much like an old man last night, which didn't help matters.

This stuff about him being in great shape? I don't buy it. Not one bit. I mean, he LOOKED in great shape when he got in the ring and when the match started and stuff, but from about the first minute he was blowing out of his arse and staggering all over the place. I'm not going to talk about this match anymore, because it's going to annoy me more if I do.

* The main event was an incredible spectacle. The Cena beating didn't have anywhere near the brutality of this one, which put it over the edge. Reigns busting Lesnar open early, and Lesnar clearly laying in a few receipts probably helped in that department. But it was just a brutal beating, with some ungodly Suplexes. That Fisherman Suplex was mental. It was more of a blatant throw than a Suplex. That Clothesline as well... deary me. Loved the Reigns comeback with the blood as well. Weakening Lesnar so as we basically all started buying into the Reigns win, which at this point I didn't mind. Because I thought that was a total star making performance for Reigns. I'm a bit worried that Reigns is basically done in the eyes in the audience no matter what he does now though. The cash in was the cherry on top.

It was a proper spectacle with some terrific matches and just generally a fun show top to bottom.

[Mouseboy11]

Feel for Wyatt, I think he's great and one of the most entertaining characters they have. Hope he does something soon, two losses in a row at Mania doesn't help though.