WWE

[When Jokers Attack]

WWE's top ten blunders episode was really good. Only complaint is they show a brief clip of the ten blunders at the start of the show. They did the same thing with the top ten promos. Would prefer watching something without knowing what is going to be on it.

[DomDom1984]

I'm getting good at avoiding the start. Meant the list all came as a reasonable surprise.

[When Jokers Attack]

Yeah will be doing that next time. Still got the top entrances to watch. The Undertaker will be number one.

[luckysalt]

I see the tag titles match has been dropped from Wrestle Mania card to the TWO hour preshow which is exclusive on the network.

Not many matches left on the card.

[metallimuse]

Two hour preshow?Isn't Mania meant to be 4 hours?

[DomDom1984]

I can only imagine every match is going to get some serious time. That and some epic entrances and maybe a Hogan promo.

[luckysalt]

Yup Mania is 4 hrs and a 2 hr preshow, but only on the network.

Not sure if youtube is getting any preshow? The tag match is defo exclusive to the network

[Andre91]

So that leaves seven matches? That's including the divas match which will no doubt be very short. How the hell are they going to fill four hours?.... I KNOW! With loads of pointless celebrity cameos and performances from artists that nobody cares about!

[When Jokers Attack]

Mania 20 was 4.5 hours long. Tag team should be put on the main card.

[luckysalt]

Just saw Heyman interview talking about Lesnar challenging whoever wins the title match at Mania at the end of the night.

imagine if Bryan wins the title then lesnar challenges him and wins! SHITSTORM.

[DomDom1984]

Did he say he'd do it if Lesnar won?

Brock is even more of a part timer than The Rock was when he won the gold, I just can't see them doing it.

[luckysalt]

He said its his vision for the end of wrestlemania, he did say that Lesnar will have already defeated Taker, but he didn't say only if he had defeated Taker.

I can see a Lesnar v Bryan fued being awesome actually, even if it is post Mania and not at the event.

BTW seen who's favourite with bookies to win the ATG battle royal? Rusev.

Think they'll give him that big a push?

It is Mania 30, I think Show stands a chance but surely if they get to carry the trophy around it'll be a heel who wins.

[DomDom1984]

A Lesnar/Bryan fued would be great if it were actually a Lesnar/Bryan. Shame it'd have to take the Punk route and be Bryan/Heyman for most of it. That's why I wouldn't want to see it.

I think The Big Show will win the Andre trophy btw.

[Andre91]

The Taker/Brock segment was p*ss poor last night. Brock was made to look weak AGAIN up until he actually got in the ring. That clothesline and F5 was sold by the announce team like it was a severe beat down. I just find the deadman character beyond boring now. It's the same thing, year in, year out. Something about hell, and burning, and the opponents soul, then "Come Sunday, [insert name] will REST. IN. PEEEEAAACE." Blah blah. I think it was clear a large chunk of the fans in attendance find it boring too, judging by the CM Punk chants during the segment.

Moving away from that, I thought Cena appearing in the mask was really cool. I'm not a Cena hater, I'm not a fan of his either. But last night I found myself liking him, he seemed more fired up and not so OTT babyface. There was, dare I say it, an ever, ever so slightly heel-ish element to it in my opinion. It was just the way he looked when he removed the mask and how irate he was once he cleared the ring. I'm looking forward to that match the most.

And finally, I loved the Bryan interruption at the end. He will beat Triple H, and he will walk out of WM30 as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. If he doesn't, then I will look a right clown for having so much certainty

[DomDom1984]

The Lesnar/Taker stuff really has been god awful. The only thing I can think of that would excuse this would be Taker losing at Mania and I just can't see that happening.

Cena has always done the slightly more bad thing when he's gone more serious. It's disappointing because a John Cena in that mood is always more entertaining. He's one of the best talkers, if not THE best talker, when he's at his most serious, and people buy into him no matter who they are. Basically, it shows that he's actually quite a good character if they can allow people to get into him. They don't though.

And yeah, Bryan wins.

[The Nal]

The "Yes" chants aren't as loud are they? And a Bryan vs Lesnar program is frankly ridiculous. Lesnar has signed a new contract though. Not sure if its still part time or what.

Also, has their been a worse main event in WM history? Two people in the main event facing each other 6 days before WM?! Wheres the "protecting the main event". Madness.

[Justiceforcedave]

I'll let you guys know how it is....live! I'M FLYING OUT TOMORROW!!!!! Woop woop!

[DomDom1984]

The crowd went mental when Bryan got his hands on Triple H though, and they were as loud as ever before that glorious beatdown.

[The Nal]

Does anyone really see Bryan sustaining a run with the belt? Facing Lesnar, Big Show etc etc?

The idea of Lesnar losing to Bryan undermines any credibility in the business. Its borderline David Arquette as WCW champion standard stuff.

I like Bryan and he always puts on decent matches but as "the man"? Nah. To refer to an old WCW division, hes a very good cruiser weight.

[DomDom1984]

He's gone beyond Cruiser point now. It's clear he's had a long and sustained time as an incredibly popular wrestler. Benoit wasn't much bigger than Bryan, and nowhere near as popular at even any one given time, except maybe the time he made HHH tap at Mania XX.

Oh, and given Daniel Bryan is a serious athlete with years in the game, who has been facing bigger guys and winning for years. Basically, he can beat Lesnar and do it credibly. And the comparison to Arquette just makes me wonder how much it's even worth getting into with you. It's absolutely nowhere near the same thing.

[The Nal]

Basically, he can beat Lesnar and do it credibly.

Do you think? I really don't. I cant see the link between credibility in beating Lesnar or even HHH just because hes popular.

As I said, I like him but I don't think it'll last.

[DomDom1984]

You are seriously overestimating the importance in size when it comes to how credible someone is to the casual fans.

That's why Rey Mysterio got away with winning the Rumble and the gold. In the case of the latter, he did it twice. The only reason he isn't always at the top of the card when he's fit now is because he's injured too much.

Daniel Bryan is more popular than he ever was as well btw.

[The Nal]

You are seriously overestimating the importance in size when it comes to how credible someone is to the casual fans.

That's why Rey Mysterio got away with winning the Rumble and the gold. In the case of the latter, he did it twice. The only reason he isn't always at the top of the card when he's fit now is because he's injured too much.

Daniel Bryan is more popular than he ever was as well btw.

I remember Rey yeah. And thats one of the reasons I'm so skeptical about Bryan. Rey was very popular at the time and he didn't draw a cent. It was ridiculous seeing him up against Mark Henry and Kane et al.

[DomDom1984]

Rey was actually a fairly decent cash cow for WWE. Whenever he's about, he always is. Watch him shoot up to the top three merch sellers when he returns.

All WWE ever need to do is have the big guy play the Vader/Taker role which Lesnar has proven brilliant at. It has fans buying into it every time. Plus, Bryan is far far better than Rey when it comes to playing the fired up underdog. Rey's only a good underdog because he's small. He's excellent as a cruiserweight wrestler, which is why he was also good when it came to matches with guys like Angle, Edge and Eddie, because it didn't require much of a step up, while also allowing the bigger guys to ragdoll him a bit.

[The Nal]

Take the "Yes" away from Bryan and what have you got? A running knee and a beard. Not a whole lot going on there really.