2013 Lineup

[mrtourette]

I think it depends entirely on whether there are sutable rap acts available in the future, just like the amount of metal will depend on whether there are suitable metal acts available, the amount of pop acts will depend on whether there are suitable pop acts available, etc.

[thetime]

I think it depends entirely on whether there are sutable rap acts available in the future, just like the amount of metal will depend on whether there are suitable metal acts available, the amount of pop acts will depend on whether there are suitable pop acts available, etc.

[mrtourette]

So you're suggesting that R&L should do exactly what V, it's biggest rival, does?

Edited April 25, 2012 by mrtourette

[thetime]

So you're suggesting that R&L should do exactly what V, it's biggest rival, does?

[evilduck]

It's actually immense. I have Brixton Tickets!

[LondonTom]

IS rap what teenagers are mostly listening to nowadays(sound like a old fogie lol)?

Edited April 25, 2012 by LondonTom

[mrtourette]

Cant see where I was suggesting?

R&L is there to sell tickets and nothing else. V in the late 90s and early 00s were alot closer to r&l than it is now and its not out of the question that they could have similar lineups again.

What I am suggesting is that reading to sell tickets needs to go with whats popular to the festival going market, the less tickets they sell the less money go on artists. Headline artists dont give a fuck where they play and go for the highest figure(apart from glasto).

Im babbling as usual, but what im trying to get at if raps the most popular form of music in the mainstream and alternative scene thats what people will get at reading and leeds.

[gazza_20]

His Forum gig on Monday was so off the scale, I have no words to describe how good it was. I'm going to have to find me a Brixton ticket as well I think.

[thetime]

May be I should rephrase the question.

Do you think it's a good idea that R&L do exactly what their closest rival does, in aiming it's line-up towards what's popular in the mainstream, and risk pitching itself into even more competition and the pitfalls and dangers that come with that (ie not enough acts for two festivals so close to each other to pursue the same booking policiy) or should it maintain it's (admittedly painful) policy of a small amount of diversity albeit it only including (comparitively) credible acts in order to develop and keep some form of identity and reputation and to try and ensure longevity by cultivating brand loyalty, goodwill and respect?

All festival may exist to sell tickets and make money, but do they play the short game and do whatever it takes to sell out every year but put itself at risk when he fairweather attendees decide to stop going to festivals, or do they play the long game and settle for fewer ticket sales but a better chance of survival in the long-run due to the foundations laid (not just regarding line-ups, but also money spent on environmental programmes, internship schemes, free beer and burger promotions, installment plans, supporting smaller local festivals, etc.) while the other festival was raking in the cash, in order to nab the long-term festival-goers and music fans to increase repeat attendees and loyalty?

Looking at how they go about things FR take far more of the latter attitude in both incidences, so no I don't think we will see R&L turn into the type of festival that just books what's popular in the mainstream every year to ensure a sell-out.

[mrtourette]

I would suggest that reading has always been about the lineups, they dont offer much more than lineups! Also the market there after is aimed at a short term view rather than long term. Would fr be offering the promotions if they were still selling out quickly? no they would not.

Edited April 25, 2012 by mrtourette

[Mouseboy11]

Have Hollywood Undead ever played Reading? (guilty pleasure)

[evilduck]

tried looking for youtube video's but appears to be none?

[thetime]

There were a few announcements stating that anyone caught filming or taking photos would be ejected. I saw a couple of people take a sneaky photo, but doubt anyone wanted to chance filming it.

[LondonTom]

A few artists are getting strict on it.

Saw a lady get took out made to delete pics or be thrown out during bjork last year

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

In some ways its a good thing!

In other ways, I don't really think they should stop you, especially if means having to wade through the crowd. Wouldn't have Jack White down as someone fussed about copyright from a shity camera phone?

[Dan R]

In some ways its a good thing!

In other ways, I don't really think they should stop you, especially if means having to wade through the crowd. Wouldn't have Jack White down as someone fussed about copyright from a shity camera phone?

[LondonTom]

The thing is that phones can have very high quality cameras and microphones, I mean look at the Radiohead set from Glastonbury last year. There's a video of the entire set from a variety of different camera's and it stand ups really well. As good camera phones get cheaper i can see more artists getting picky.

Edited April 25, 2012 by LondonTom

[thetime]

True but its hard to control, you can't take people's phones off them. It is what it is these days...Unless we go to all seating, this would be getting ridiculously hard to police

[rug568]

I Apple have patented an infra red beam that venues can shine at the crowd which turns the camera off but still allows the rest of the phone to work normally.

http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/17/apple-could-disable-iphone-camera-live-concerts/

[eFestivals]

I Apple have patented an infra red beam that venues can shine at the crowd which turns the camera off but still allows the rest of the phone to work normally.

http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/17/apple-could-disable-iphone-camera-live-concerts/

and because they've patented it, they've ensured that it won't be adopted by other phone makers and so will only ever work for a small minority of phones ... and so it's as good as useless.

[AcademicPistol]

Jay/Kanye & Dre/Snoop = WIN!

[LondonTom]

In respect of bjork she likes you to be engrossed in the gig and faffing around with phones/cameras.

[lharris92]

http://www.music-news.com/ShowNews.asp?nItemID=51298&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

don't know how accurate that will turn out to be.

*gets out a bud and watches reactions*

[LondonTom]

Prepare to be bored to tears!

[jump]

THE SMITHS CAN'T GET BACK TOGETHER IT WOULD DESTROY THEIR LEGACY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!!