The Dirty Independence Question

[pink_triangle]

I would argue the English depth is pretty good. There are 5th tier teams averaging 5000 plus and 6th tier 1000 plus. Not so sure about smaller towns as I guess most people in England live close to a 10,000 plus town.

 

[Neil]

21 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I would argue the English depth is pretty good. There are 5th tier teams averaging 5000 plus and 6th tier 1000 plus. Not so sure about smaller towns as I guess most people in England live close to a 10,000 plus town.

 

from that book i read, the small scottish teams are better supported than equivalent english teams.

[Neil]

latest GERS is out and its all tyrning to shit, even the most dedicated indy supporter can't keep hoping it'll come good after indy.

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

so burnham is telling Scotland it can't join the EU. lol

the GERS numbers pretty much tell Scotland the same, the SNP would have to cut publkic spending like a tory in order to stay within EU rules.

[LJS]

Getting the cave ready as we speak

 

[Neil]

SNP in huge corruption scandal.

[Neil]

i guess the Scottish courts hate Scotland as much as Nats imagine 'the English' do.

sturgeon has her much wanted never-endum, that's never getting the endless referendum she wants to endlessly serve up false grievance. next it moves on to her mad general election idea where she reckons she can force Westminster to legislate to her wants; wanting a greater sovereignty for scots than she'll allow for the UK, and that's a UK govt with  a democratic mandate to refuse an indyref.

[LJS]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

i guess the Scottish courts hate Scotland as much as Nats imagine 'the English' do.

no idea what you are on about here ( as is often the case)

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

sturgeon has her much wanted never-endum, that's never getting the endless referendum she wants to endlessly serve up false grievance. next it moves on to her mad general election idea where she reckons she can force Westminster to legislate to her wants; wanting a greater sovereignty for scots than she'll allow for the UK, and that's a UK govt with  a democratic mandate to refuse an indyref.

So Westminster has the democratic right to deny Scotland's democratic rights.

 

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, LJS said:

no idea what you are on about here ( as is often the case)

if it had been the english courts the nats narrative would been all bout the nasty english.

2 minutes ago, LJS said:

So Westminster has the democratic right to deny Scotland's democratic rights.

more than Scotland has a democratic right to vote itself the right to break  Scottish Law.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Neil

[LJS]

Just now, Neil said:

if it had been the english courts the nats narrative would been all bout the nasty english.

 

Sorry Neil, what have the Scottish Courts done?

[Neil]

3 hours ago, LJS said:

Sorry Neil, what have the Scottish Courts done?

they've denied sturgeon's request for the scottish govt to  decide about a referendum.

[Neil]

3 hours ago, LJS said:

Sorry Neil, what have the Scottish Courts done?

they've said sturgeon is not relevant for selling you something she can't deliver.

[LJS]

15 minutes ago, Neil said:

they've denied sturgeon's request for the scottish govt to  decide about a referendum.

 

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

they've said sturgeon is not relevant for selling you something she can't deliver.

Tosh.

a: it's not before a Scottish court  -it's before the Supreme Court which is a UK  court

b: No judgement has been made & probably won't be for weeks

[Neil]

9 minutes ago, LJS said:

 

Tosh.

a: it's not before a Scottish court  -it's before the Supreme Court which is a UK  court

b: No judgement has been made & probably won't be for weeks

i thought today was the Scottish supreme court. anyway who ever it is, the snp has sold Scotland a pile of crap again, you keep on buying it. that 'more sophisticated electorate you used to claim you had.

[LJS]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

i thought today was the Scottish supreme court. anyway who ever it is, the snp has sold Scotland a pile of crap again, you keep on buying it. that 'more sophisticated electorate you used to claim you had.

Thanks for confirming what we have long known, that you know the square root of fuck all about Scottish politics.

[Neil]

32 minutes ago, LJS said:

Thanks for confirming what we have long known, that you know the square root of fuck all about Scottish politics.

have the snp been promising s referendum they don't have the power to deliver? i know that much, shame the Scottish electorate don't, and keep on buying the mis-sold crap from the snp, if the snp wrere a business they'd be breaking the law for mis-selling.

[LJS]

28 minutes ago, Neil said:

have the snp been promising s referendum they don't have the power to deliver? i know that much, shame the Scottish electorate don't, and keep on buying the mis-sold crap from the snp, if the snp wrere a business they'd be breaking the law for mis-selling.

Maybe we all had the misguided belief that a Westminster government might respect democracy?

[Neil]

15 hours ago, LJS said:

Maybe we all had the misguided belief that a Westminster government might respect democracy?

it would be good if the Scottish govt did. as they're saying the Scotland act 1998 is tosh then that abolishes the Scottish  parliament - how about a bit of joined up  thinking from sturgeon.plus the uk govt has a democratic mandate to refuse another indyref with at mandate is as strong as anything Scotland claims to have.

[LJS]

10 hours ago, Neil said:

it would be good if the Scottish govt did. as they're saying the Scotland act 1998 is tosh then that abolishes the Scottish  parliament - how about a bit of joined up  thinking from sturgeon.plus the uk govt has a democratic mandate to refuse another indyref with at mandate is as strong as anything Scotland claims to have.

Your interpretation of the relative strengths of mandates is admirably creative.

[Neil]

5 hours ago, LJS said:

Your interpretation of the relative strengths of mandates is admirably creative.

If the Scotland act doesn't c**t, then a mandate created by it doesn't count either. If the sg has a mandate then Westminster has one just as strong both stood for election with their mandates, sturgeon says Westminster can't ignore her mandate, while she ignores Westminsters mandate. 

[Neil]

i hear theres some snp comedy due today, any idea where i'll find it.

[LJS]

2 hours ago, Neil said:

i hear theres some snp comedy due today, any idea where i'll find it.

I think its tomorrow, Nwil.

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, LJS said:

I think its tomorrow, Nwil.

BBC were saying today this morning. Meant to be a currency plan and more, gonna make truss look like aan economic genius. 

[LJS]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

BBC were saying today this morning. Meant to be a currency plan and more, gonna make truss look like aan economic genius. 

 

 

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The Scottish government paper, which will be published on Monday, will set out proposals for key issues, such as currency and border arrangements.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-63260224