Football 2010-2011

[pink_triangle]

He's either got to be the thickest footballer ever to walk the planet (which isn't how I've ever taken him to be) or only () hugely fantastically stupid for taking the legal advice that he has.

[eFestivals]

I have read his autobiography which is very dull but he doesnt come across as thick. He comes across as someone who could have whored himself out more for endorsements through his life but treasued his privacy.

yep, that's pretty much how I've always taken him to be.

I suspect he has been advised badly but its pretty new territory so he will probably be the first of many to be affected in this way.

it's not new territory. The only thing that's new about it is the specific existence of twitter, but nothing that is happening on twitter is anything which hasn't gone on previously around an injunction like this.

And what very definitely isn't new is the publicity that an individual's case will get (surreptitiously or openly) when there's already huge publicity around the wider legal aspect. Trying to get twitter to reveal who has made the posts was always going to focus things on this individual's case as much anything else around the subject.

"badly advised" is the understatement of the decade.

Its not like he is someone like beckham or terry who has used his family image to gain financially, so I suspect in the long term it wont effect his reputation too much.

I agree - and so why put his reputation more on the line by drawing a greater amount of attention to it? It doesn't make sense outside of gross stupidity.

[The Nal]

So Marco van Basten is the bookies fave foe Chelski?!

My favourite player of all time and an all time great but is he really the person to bring the CL to the Bridge? He has a checkered past as manager. Controversial/rash decisions at times too.

Also, Michael Owen: "As they say, if you can’t beat them, join them".

Man Utd legend!!

Edited May 23, 2011 by The Nal

[strummer77]

Also, Michael Owen: "As they say, if you can’t beat them, join them".

Man Utd legend!!

[luckysalt]

Robbie Savage was just on Talksport and im not sure how he knew this cus I wasn't listening just heard it from fellow fans on twitter but he said that Mark Hughes has agreed to become new Villa manager. Its a done deal apparently.

[Kyelo]

I don't think Giggs has been stupid at all. I mean the world knows it is him, he knows the world knows so what exactly does he have to lose? May as well give it a go I say.

[pink_triangle]

Almost pity him a bit. Genuinely sees the league as a personal achievement. He's played two and a half games worth of time, mainly as a late pointless sub (probably just so SAF gets him a medal).

[eFestivals]

So is all this injunction stuff going to keep Giggs out of Saturday's final? I presume he's in Fergie's mind to play as he didn't play last weekend.

[pink_triangle]

So is all this injunction stuff going to keep Giggs out of Saturday's final? I presume he's in Fergie's mind to play as he didn't play last weekend.

[jump]

Haven't they got the Neville testimonial to play first though? I'd imagine it would be mostly the Man U old guard playing.

[harderfaster]

Haven't they got the Neville testimonial to play first though? I'd imagine it would be mostly the Man U old guard playing.

[strummer77]

So did you also feel pity seeing the liverpool keeper celebrating his world cup win!

Edited May 24, 2011 by strummer77

[pink_triangle]

Owen's biggest achievement was winning the FA cup etc back in 2001 when he was a main man. I pity how he thinks this is the pinnacle of his career. He could have achieved so much more.

[harderfaster]

I'm sure Owen doesn't really think this is the pinnacle of his career. He knows his best days were when he was young, fast and fit and I don't blame him for making light of what he's got now and trying his best to enjoy the rest of his career. If he genuinely thought he's good enough to be a team's main man he'd be playing at a team where he'd be the main man, but he knows he's not good enough anymore and is happy to take the back seat. I don't think he's deluded.

Edited May 24, 2011 by harderfaster

[jump]

I'm sure Owen doesn't really think this is the pinnacle of his career. He knows his best days were when he was young, fast and fit and I don't blame him for making light of what he's got now and trying his best to enjoy the rest of his career. If he genuinely believed he were good enough to be a team's main man he'd be playing at a team where he'd be the main man, but he knows he's not good enough anymore and is happy to take the back seat. I don't think he's deluded.

[strummer77]

I agree and disagree. From one perspective I dont think owen has the drive of a player like giggs and is quite happy to stay in his mansion in chester and have an easy life. To be fair its not a terirble lifestyle. Regarding him achieving more, this is where we differ. Players peak at different times and Owen peaked very early. With a bit of added drive he could have done better but Im not sure he was ever going to be one of europes best ever strikers as some people think.

[The Nal]

becks is playing, haven't read about anybody else though. would be f**king brilliant to see keane play again.

[eFestivals]

Not a chance giggs is the ultimate professional and Im sure come the game his full focus will be on trying to ensure a man utd win.

I suspect you're right. It's not like he's shirked from the requests of just about every media operator in the last few weeks for him to talk about football. I've been wetting myself that they've all suddenly been asking to talk to Giggs.

But there's a part of me which thinks perhaps he'll go the other way and say "f**k this, I don't need this hassle". As he's right at the end of career anyway, and has played at the top level far longer than most people would have thought, it's not like he'd be dipping out on a huge amount if he did decide to jack it in.

[harderfaster]

Red Nev, Blue Nev, Beckham, Yorke, Nicky Nicky Butt, Henning Berg, Ronny Johnsen, Andy Cole, Sheringham and Pallister apparently.

[the_hedge]

What's peoples predictions for the Chumps League final then?

I'm going for a comfortable Barca victory. United's inability to keep the ball long enough will be their undoing and Ferdinand looks like he is dragging a parachute when you run at him, something Villa and Messi would have noticed I'm sure.

Edited May 24, 2011 by the_hedge

[eFestivals]

What's peoples predictions for the Chumps League final then?

I'm going for a comfortable Barca victory. United's inability to keep the ball long enough will be their undoing and Ferdinand looks like he is dragging a parachute when you run at him, something Villa and Messi would have noticed I'm sure.

Everything suggests that it should be a comfortable Barca victory, but in a one-off game you never know. It should have been a comfortable victory for Barca at the Emirates earlier this season, but it wasn't.

[harderfaster]

What's peoples predictions for the Chumps League final then?

[eFestivals]

Other news, Giggs missed training today despite not being injured.

Well, I guess there was a good reason why he was so utterly desperate to try and keep everything hushed up, and now he's having to deal with the consequences of everyone in the world knowing.

Are the red-tops outside his house, watching his missus load up the car?

[the_hedge]

Everything suggests that it should be a comfortable Barca victory, but in a one-off game you never know. It should have been a comfortable victory for Barca at the Emirates earlier this season, but it wasn't.

[The Nal]

Are the red-tops outside his house, watching his missus load up the car?