Football 2010-2011

[ralph250]

I was joking about it being borrowed, but their finances aren't good, however they're dressed up. They can get by for a while but therefore Manchester United aren't the force in the market they were.

Interesting:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/may/19/football-club-accounts-debt

(Obviously Liverpool's debts are different now thanks to FSG)

[ralph250]

What you've missed from all of that is the loans they've taken on the quiet to pay off some of the known debts.

Unless you're going to tell me that there's no subterfuge behind the Glazers moving their company registration to Delaware?

Edited May 19, 2011 by ralph250

[strummer77]

Don't care if United fans think all is well at the club. Suits me. Must be coincidence the large dominant spending at United has disappeared and that many financial experts seem to mutter worrying things are well at the club. The revenue that club take in is amazing, their owners are shit. You can dress those figures up how you want but there is no doubt the Glazers are stunting progress, it's just a testament to the structure you had before they came in that you're still on top.

Anyway, makes me pleased seeing our old figures. Just highlights how much better off we are now H&G got the boot.

Edited May 19, 2011 by strummer77

[Banana Co]

Just got my Reading FC Wembley tickets! Can't f**king wait!!

[ralph250]

Don't care if United fans think all is well at the club. Suits me. Must be coincidence the large dominant spending at United has disappeared and that many financial experts seem to mutter worrying things are well at the club. The revenue that club take in is amazing, their owners are shit. You can dress those figures up how you want but there is no doubt the Glazers are stunting progress, it's just a testament to the structure you had before they came in that you're still on top.

[pink_triangle]

Some hope for martinez, amazing stat I heard on the guardian podcast. Only one foreign manager has taken a team down in the last 10 years. Avram Grant twice!

[The Nal]

Tevez "I want to leave Manchester City".

What an ungrateful little c**t.

[eFestivals]

But if that debt is indeed just personal, and we're going to include it on Utd's liabiities, then why not include any mortgages they have (property, the malls etc) as liabilities to Utd aswell.

they did it before. Why do you think they won't do it again?

Neither me or you know whether they took loans out or not

I do, and you do. Unless you think it rains money in Delaware, so that they suddenly had the funds to pay off huge amounts of debt?

edit: Kroenke is Delaware based aswell despite his sport franchises being in Colarado and Missouri.

While that might be as dodgy as the Glazers doings, it might not be (I know little about him, so I don't know).

Regarding the Glazers, it's known they're skint, and they suddenly moved everything to dodgy Delaware. It doesn't take a genius to realise that they did that for surreptitious reasons, particularly when they suddenly had some money after they'd moved.

Kroenke might be up to similar things, I don't know. But he does have a heiress as his wife, whose wealth pisses all over what is claimed as his (and his pisses all over the Glazers).

[TheGayTent]

Tevez "I want to leave Manchester City".

What an ungrateful little c**t.

[the_hedge]

He's better than Rooney though

[TheGayTent]

As an out and out goal scorer he is but Rooney is a better all round player. I would rather have Rooney in my side, he offers that little bit extra. You can play him in the hole and essentialy play either a 442 or 451 depending on how far you push him up the park.

[the_hedge]

Unsurprisingly I disagree. Other than aerial ability, I cannot think of any other part of the game that Rooney scores higher at than Tevez.

[The Nal]

He's better than Rooney though

[TheGayTent]

Id rather have Rooney in the team.

Tevez though. What a distruptive little stain. Thats five clubs hes played for and hasnt lasted more than two years at any of them. Caused distuption at every club too.

[The Nal]

More madness.

I think you'll find Tevez's time at clubs is dictated more by his "advisors" than it is himself.

[pink_triangle]

He's better than Rooney though

[The Nal]

I think he speaks better english than beckham spoke spanish and Beckham got hardly any criticism from the british media for not bothering.

[pink_triangle]

Beckham didn't live in Spain for 6 years and wasn't club captain.

Edited May 20, 2011 by pink_triangle

[ampersand]

i'm with tgt on this one now. tevez > rooney.

you can say what you like about tevez's personality, but rooney is a stain.

[strummer77]

i'm with tgt on this one now. tevez > rooney.

you can say what you like about tevez's personality, but rooney is a stain.

[brighteyes]

My new prediction for Sunday is Wigan, Blackpool and Birmingham all lose, but Wigan stay up on basis of goals scored over Birmingham, and goal difference over Blackpool.

[thetime]

Saw them both at Anfield a couple of years ago and at the time thought how much better Tevez was. Still stand by that. Bar his physical presence Rooney is behind Tevez in almost every aspect. However Rooney is English and therefore the greatest thing ever.

[thetime]

always find this thread amazing, as people concentrate on man utd rather than there own club.

[pink_triangle]

Does anyone know how the fixture list is decided? My Man Utd supporting fan mentioned earlier that they always get poor teams on the last game of the season. I thought he was exaggerating but when I checked there did seem to be a trend. Do they teams have any say in the order of games? I always assumed it wasnt random as they have to accomodate skys super sundays and try and ensure teams from the same city arent playing home the same day, however I had never given it much thought untill he pointed it out.

As for this mysterious unknown footballer, in no way connected to man utd. I am amazed with the plan to sue twitter. Its only going to make more people curious to find out who he is and to be honest Im not sure there are any left who dont know!

[strummer77]

couldnt be that rooney still plays for utd then? loving the 19 hes shaved in his chest!

perhaps gerrard can shape big fat zero.

Edited May 20, 2011 by strummer77