Boycott 2010 is something isn't done!

[The Nal]

Walking around the site on Monday I was surprised at how quick the site had been tidied up already, the pyramid area was nearly spotless.

[LusciousLucy]

You came back from Glasto and posted a long moan including a bit about thwe lack of people up for partying. Yet a post I read on here has you stomping out of your tent to complain about people partying.

[Addicted_Adele]

Bullying, bad bahaviour and ill will are obviously all about tone and language.

Given some of the language used its absolutley clear that the OP has been subject to ill will and this may well have gone as far as bullying. Calling someone insane does not contribute to any form of sensible debate. To dress it up as 'opinion' is disingenuous.

It is possible to disagree with someone without ridiculing them. It's nothing to do with stifling or limiting discussion and everything to do with encouraging balanced, reasonable, fair expression.

A couple of people have sensed a soft target and have waded in with stronger terms than are justified.

Just an opinion.

[beamends]

So actually reading all of this stupid thread I have still got the same thought as when I started.

Why would anyone want to pick up litter for £6.30 an hour, it hardly screams out best job in the world does it???? If you are willing to pimp yourself out to a crappy job like this for such low pay then you surely cannot have a high value to your own self worth.

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[Rufus Gwertigan]

As already mentioned quite a few times...there are NOT 175,000 perfect people at this festival are there? You and I possibly do not go into the same areas and therefore perceive different aspects and therefore have every right to stick to our perceptions and describe what we saw, perceived, judged, acknowledged and so on....yes?

[mandypants]

Sorry but no way am I boycotting Glasto! I think your complaints would be much more effective if you inform GFL, including as much evidence as possible, as well as ways on how to remedy the situation.

[abu hamster]

If you all decide to boycott it would make me getting a ticket easier.

[ShadyBlueBell]

Boycotting Glastonbury is the worse thing you could possibly do you would ruin the festival entirely i agree with you in some parts that some things do need changing but who knows if anyone does listen to the public views on Glastonbury i somehow think they do up to a certain point.

No matter who goes to Glastonbury they is always some sort of complains that easily gets forgotten about in a few months then most people remember the good times they had at Glastonbury and for me the good times now outright the bad times and there where some bad times by the way.

Glastonbury we will be going to next year but i only hope That RADIOHEAD AND COLDPLAY will be headlining yaaaaaaaaaaaa will be keeping fingers crossed yep now that's something to look forward to lol

[Kyelo]

Glastonbury we will be going to next year but i only hope That RADIOHEAD AND COLDPLAY will be headlining yaaaaaaaaaaaa will be keeping fingers crossed yep now that's something to look forward to lol

[ShadyBlueBell]

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[Rufus Gwertigan]

I will happily return with a load of volunteers, unpaid, we will clear as much good equipment as we can and get it all sold, split the money and donate as much as we can to charity. I have had plenty of support for this idea, it just needs a bit of organisation! Someone who walked past me on site suggested setting up a second hand camping equipment store which was a good idea, collect as much as we can from Glastonbury then have a stall at the next festival selling the recycled items.

If I'd had a couple of 4x4's and trailers I could have made a killing.

[ShadyBlueBell]

Interesting VERY long thread so i will pull up me chair and sit and eat a bowl full of Maltesers after all they are only 1 calories per ball and have a rit good old read of this thread it never ends lol

Carry on folks lol

[Alcatraz]

Target the real problem here. The individuals who forced you to work in unacceptable conditions.

Do not target an organisation that tirelessly campaigns on improving conditions for workers who work under even worse circumstances. Boycotting is not the answer. Complaining to the festival management is

[ShadyBlueBell]

Only allowed 1 depressing act per year make it Radiohead!

[mandypants]

If you all decide to boycott it would make me getting a ticket easier.

[cabstar]

Surely there's a missing smiley there, or some irony I'm not getting? Do you really think that of people who through no fault of their own can only get minimum wage? Or those who do such work at Glastonbury because they feel the need to contribute to the festival for the benefit of others. I don't wish unemployment on anyone, but for you I'll make an exception - the breathtaking arrogance of that statement is beyond belief. No wonder the Glastonbury magic has gone if that's the level of punter being attracted. Along with hippies who created the festival and supported it through is early years and have now gone, I am, as they say in the colonies, outa' here.

Utterly unbelievable.

[adamski]

I haven't read every post in this thread so someone may have covered this already. As all the problems that have been highlighted seem to be after everyone has gone home, so how is the festival going to persuade you not to boycott it?

Maybe some form of campaign, about loving farms and not leaving any traces or something?

[denwyn]

Not really an option is it

The only thing i did notice was some of the so called toilet cleaners were pretty usless,then again its not a job anyone would like. Security were ok,bit bossy but then they have to be to keep trouble away. Stewards need to be a bit more informed, i arrived on Wednesday and wanted to get to the Dairy field area,not one in three asked knew were it was,in the end i was pointed in the right direction by very helpfull festival goers. Put your complaints direct to Glastonbury via there own website

Do you honestly think people will boycot Glastonbury 2010.....NOT A CHANCE

[kyjenni]

Ok guys, I'm going to make my final comments in regards to this thread and then I'm not going to look at this thread again because battling is tiring!

The opening post was written in haste, what I meant and should have written was - Are you behind me to make little changes to try and make the festival we know and love better? I was never expecting to have to boycott the festival and would never expect anyone else to. The main suggestions I have are so simple and on the main part common decency and were actually on our side to try and make better, not on the office side (although I do have some points to make to the office, that's separate to this).

- Respect for each other. It doesn't matter if you paid for a ticket, are a big star, clean toilets or work in security. I don't know if I need to go in to detail here!

- More awareness of what happens to the rubbish. The general public are not assholes, tell them that the tent may not go to a good home and they'd be more likely to either take it home or take it somewhere on site where it could be re-used and not just put in to landfill. If someone needs to shout a bit louder about this I will happily take on the job, I have a big gob don't you know! The awareness is not there (as has been demonstrated by some of the comments on this thread), you can't write instructions down on a leaflet and expect everyone to get the message. I know there are many people combing the site to re-use things, I was one of them! There weren't enough though.

- Care a bit more about each other. I know a lot of this goes on already but go a little further, if everyone was carrying out random acts of kindness more often they would be getting a good feeling from doing so and the recipient would feel better about the world too.

I am a creature of efficiency and I love and care about everyone. If no-one wants to get involved in spreading a little love then that's fair enough but I think they will, you guys do care. I think things will be improved and the birthday celebrations next year will be off the scale and then I can attend happy that people are happier and more people are caring about each other. If I do attend I will be there once again with my bag of supplies, suncream and happy face, popping up randomly to make you laugh and make sure you're not getting sunburnt. You can tell me I'm full of shit and you think what I'm doing is a waste of time but it won't knock me at all and I'll continue doing what I do. I am lucky to have many people around me who love and care for me, in an ideal world everyone would have the same but as that's not possible I pass on as much as I can.

I have had a lifechanging year and I can happily say that my Glastonbury experience has changed my life. I have improved my Poly Cystic Ovary Syndrome symptoms, I have had laser hair removal as one of the most horrific symptoms of PCOS is more hair, gone from 12st down to 10st 7 (8 pounds lost at Glasto!), I have improved my diet so rarely eat anything packaged but that was boosted at Glastonbury and I found so many new foods, stopped smoking after 18 years of being a smoker (ok I smoke other things at festivals but it is only at festivals!), the kindest people in the world carried out a number of holistic treatments after the festival for me which have improved many areas including completely sorting out my back which I've spent hundreds of pounds on at chiropractors, I have had treatment for CIN level 2 cells on my cervix all this year so far which I had final results back a few weeks before Glasto and I have now cleared. Now you may think that I've just shared too much there but I don't. If I can speak out on here and it helps others then that makes me happy. I would relish in being able to create more awareness about things that I have been through if it helps others.

So yes I am quite exciteable, I'm feeling better at 29 than I have through the whole of my twenties, I have never been so healthy or so happy. Yes I am hyper active but at the same time I am also very calm and caring. I am not mental, I have been to the docs and had the all clear to put people's minds at rest as they can't understand how I can have so much energy etc. Berate me if you want, tell me I'm a slushy gushy twat, nothing is going to take the smile off of this face for any long period of time (people do get to me sometimes but not for long now!), I'm so strong right now I feel I could take on almost anything but right now all I'm doing is spreading love and that's really not hard for me.

LOVE YOU, LOVE YOUR FACE!!!! xxx

[eFestivals]

- More awareness of what happens to the rubbish. The general public are not assholes, tell them that the tent may not go to a good home and they'd be more likely to either take it home or take it somewhere on site where it could be re-used and not just put in to landfill. If someone needs to shout a bit louder about this I will happily take on the job, I have a big gob don't you know! The awareness is not there (as has been demonstrated by some of the comments on this thread), you can't write instructions down on a leaflet and expect everyone to get the message.

as is proven year after year, a significant proportion of the general public ARE arseholes. They've been told their tent won't go to a good home, but they've chosen not to listen or simply don't care. While it could be improved some (how tho? I don't know), it's never going to be a huge improvement without an even bigger improvement happening in the world in general. The fact that sooooo many people have decided that climate change is nothing more than a scam via which to raise taxes - while the truth is shouted VERY loudly at them - shows just how difficult changing people's minds is.

As the saying goes: you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

- Care a bit more about each other.

a pipe dream. Again, all the while people are prepared to shit on each other in the real world they'll shit on each other at Glastonbury.

If no-one wants to get involved in spreading a little love then that's fair enough but I think they will, you guys do care.

do you think that the people who do care don't do these things already?

I have had a lifechanging year and I can happily say that my Glastonbury experience has changed my life.

the best that can be expected of Glastonbury is that some individuals come away with better ideas of how their own actions can improve the world - which you appear to be an example of. But just because you've got it doesn't mean that all others are open to the same ideas. Some people are simply not! They go to festivals to see bands - and as the booking of Jay-Z showed last year this is the primary motivation for the majority of attendees - and not to be preached at or converted; it's a hiding to nothing to try on many levels. And of course it's impossible to convert the already converted. As I say above, the best that can be expected of Glastonbury is that some individuals come away with better ideas - but for this to happen they'll be arriving with the wrong ideas and all of the consequences those wrong ideas bring - and so, via that, you should hopefully see that perfection (or even great steps towards it) are an impossibility.

[Langdale Wolf]

I daresay that the vast majority of posters on efestivals have the same attitude to you, jenni when it comes to looking after the farm, cleaning up after themselves etc. So I think you're preaching to the converted.

But at the end of the day, people who post on here have taken some time out to register/login and post info about a festival they quite clearly love. Otherwise why post? (Unless you're just a post whore like Alcatraz )

But as Neil says, no matter what attitude we all take to Glasto, there will always be people who refuse to conform to what we think are acceptable standards. i.e. arseholes. Life's a bitch, but that's the way it goes.

I do my bit, I never leave any rubbish lying around, and I make sure I take all my stuff at the end. I think that's all the majority of people on here will do. Every little helps. It really could be a lot worse.

[yasgursfarmhand]

My two pennies.

I love the festival and been going for 20 years. However, I can't see any excuse for the litter and crap left behind. I can never get my head round it, it is disheartening that so many people care so little.

That's my lot on this one.

[russycarps]

problem is everyone knows the litter is going to be picked up and disposed of one way or another so there is no real incentive for (selfish) people to bother tidying up.

People assume that for their £180 they are entitled to a cleaning service at the end to. And in a way they are right. The ticket cost includes the site tidy up costs so I cant see how these peoples minds will ever be changed.

[ukslim]

I've had a brilliant idea that will rescue the festival. Here it is:

• Everybody be nice to each other, and to the planet

Think about it, it solves everything. It has the added benefit that the ticket price will reduce to nothing, since there will be no need for security, or a fence, the performers will perform just for the pleasure of it, the roadies, sound men, circus riggers, comperes, they'll do it all just to be nice. Punters will take their turn cleaning out the toilets, just for the joy of pitching in.

It will be an utopia, for 3 days in a field in Somerset.

Oh, we'll have to set up some sort of gulag down the road, out of earshot, for any traitors to progress who don't do their bit. They can build monorail carriages.

[ukslim]

problem is everyone knows the litter is going to be picked up and disposed of one way or another so there is no real incentive for (selfish) people to bother tidying up.

People assume that for their £180 they are entitled to a cleaning service at the end to. And in a way they are right. The ticket cost includes the site tidy up costs so I cant see how these peoples minds will ever be changed.