Boycott 2010 is something isn't done!

[chad7]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Go to f**king V next year you cryer.

f**k me I would hate to think that the festival organisers actually came on here and read some of the absolute vitriol that gets aimed at them. They are running a festival the size of a f**king town. Of course there are going to be imperfections.

If the Glastonbury organisers do read these things, I would like to express my gratitude on behalf of me and my pals. Easily the best five days of this year and by far the greatest festival I have ever been to.

Keep up the good work.

[sifi]

I've had a brilliant idea that will rescue the festival. Here it is:

• Everybody be nice to each other, and to the planet

[ukslim]

It was the late Douglas Adams who once referenced Jesus Christ as "A man who was nailed to a tree because he went around saying how it would be nice if we were friendly to one another once in a while" ....

[sifi]

Oh, I'm not saying I'm Jesus. That's for other people to decide.

[dakyras]

I've had a brilliant idea that will rescue the festival. Here it is:

• Everybody be nice to each other, and to the planet

Think about it, it solves everything. It has the added benefit that the ticket price will reduce to nothing, since there will be no need for security, or a fence, the performers will perform just for the pleasure of it, the roadies, sound men, circus riggers, comperes, they'll do it all just to be nice. Punters will take their turn cleaning out the toilets, just for the joy of pitching in.

It will be an utopia, for 3 days in a field in Somerset.

Oh, we'll have to set up some sort of gulag down the road, out of earshot, for any traitors to progress who don't do their bit. They can build monorail carriages.

[jameshunt]

I think you meant eutopia. Utopia is something completely different.

[talullah]

here here. i had such a good time.

by the way, look at the thread title - 'Boycott 2010 IS something isn't done' sort your own imperfections out mr/mrs author

I certainly wont be boycotting, ill be buying my tent as soon as its out of season and cheaper, as i left my 8 man tent there. there have that x

[Craigston]

as is proven year after year, a significant proportion of the general public ARE arseholes.......

a pipe dream. Again, all the while people are prepared to shit on each other in the real world they'll shit on each other at Glastonbury......

Edited July 8, 2009 by Craigston

[FunkyDenz]

I think they did mean utopia as "eutopia" doesn't appear in any dictionary I've seen.

utopia (noun)

"(the idea of) a perfect society in which everyone works well with each other and is happy"

[jameshunt]

@Funkydenz - like I said. It doesn't appear in any dictionary I've seen.

[dakyras]

I think they did mean utopia as "eutopia" doesn't appear in any dictionary I've seen.

utopia (noun)

"(the idea of) a perfect society in which everyone works well with each other and is happy"

Edited July 9, 2009 by dakyras

[ukslim]

Utopia means "no place". Use of the word implies a fictional ideal, not an achievable reality like the one proposed for Glastonbury.

[geebie]

So back to the thread...

Have we heard any specific evidence yet of specific complaints ?

GB

[beergut100]

here here. i had such a good time.

by the way, look at the thread title - 'Boycott 2010 IS something isn't done' sort your own imperfections out mr/mrs author

I certainly wont be boycotting, ill be buying my tent as soon as its out of season and cheaper, as i left my 8 man tent there. there have that x

[beergut100]

Do you own an OED?

Eutopia: " A region of ideal happiness or good order."

Utopia means "no place". Use of the word implies a fictional ideal, not an achievable reality like the one proposed for Glastonbury.

I suggest you get a better dictionary.

[dakyras]

Actually, I wrote a dissertation on utopias and dystopias, and "Eutopia" is an obsolete spelling of "Utopia".

Edited July 9, 2009 by dakyras

[TomHodder]

Lack of communicaion between Security, Police, Stewards etc

[jameshunt]

Do you own an OED?

Eutopia: " A region of ideal happiness or good order."

Utopia means "no place". Use of the word implies a fictional ideal, not an achievable reality like the one proposed for Glastonbury.

I suggest you get a better dictionary.

[dakyras]

From OED and AskOxford.com:

Utopia: n. imagined perfect place or state of things

[jameshunt]

Exactly. Imagined. It is fictional. It therefore cannot occur in the real world. What was proposed was turning Glastonbury, a real place, into an ideal society. Therefore, once achieved, it would be a eutopia. Something cannot be a utopia.

[dakyras]

Congratulations for making a valid, but non sequitur point.

[beergut100]

Did you fail?

Eutopia is not a synonym of Utopia.

Utopia is an ideal, Eutopia is a description of an actual place. Misuse of the word 'utopia' is one of the most common mistakes in our language.

Edited July 9, 2009 by beergut100

[jameshunt]

A contradiction, surely?

[dakyras]

No. It was valid as a stand-alone point, but did not follow our particular conversation.

[dakyras]

No, though I concede that just saying it is an alternative spelling without expanding on this was a bit of an over-simplification. Thomas Moore made a play on words when he wrote "Utopia". Eutopia did indeed mean a positive ideal place. The play on words Moore used was with the Greek for "no", which combined with the latter half of Eutopia to make Utopia; a fictional (or negative) ideal place. Over time, the word Eutopia did become synomynous with Utopia and has fallen into disuse - hence the word "dystopia" fell into common use to make the distinction between positive and negative utopias. Most dictionaries will not now contain the word Eutopia; and if they do, they will usually state that the word is now obsolete.

I think we've gone a bit off-topic