BST 2024

[charlierc]

5 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Indeed.

Got to be one of the 50,000-capped events, surely.

Looks like we're one correct on the leak list. Presumably the rest should come soon enough.

[charlierc]

5 hours ago, gfa said:

Acts are doing heaps of O2 dates a lot more and these are generally the kind of acts that BST go after.

Certainly I thought The Killers might do this given they did BST in 2017 and previously did Hyde Park when it was Hard Rock Calling in 2009 & 2011 but they've gone for 6 nights at the O2 instead, of which there are still tickets available to at least 2 of them.

[incident]

48 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Interesting - I thought that with Taylor Swift doing lots of dates there plus Springsteen & Green Day that they might be close to quota. Unless it's a more generous allowance than I thought.

From memory, they're allowed a huge number. Can't remember exactly but it ends up being more than 20 concerts in addition to their sports fixtures. So the main obstacle to hitting the limit will be that there's probably not enough suitable dates in the summer.

[Chef]

1 hour ago, charlierc said:

Interesting - I thought that with Taylor Swift doing lots of dates there plus Springsteen & Green Day that they might be close to quota. Unless it's a more generous allowance than I thought.

I'm not sure on numbers of shows Wembley can do but the same person did say the two dates were spread apart over the summer. 

[charlierc]

57 minutes ago, incident said:

From memory, they're allowed a huge number. Can't remember exactly but it ends up being more than 20 concerts in addition to their sports fixtures. So the main obstacle to hitting the limit will be that there's probably not enough suitable dates in the summer.

At the moment they're up to 11, so they've still got wiggle room by the sounds of it.

[NorthernSoul52]

3 hours ago, charlierc said:

Certainly I thought The Killers might do this given they did BST in 2017 and previously did Hyde Park when it was Hard Rock Calling in 2009 & 2011 but they've gone for 6 nights at the O2 instead, of which there are still tickets available to at least 2 of them.

Surprised at that many, only two years after those stadium gigs to boot. (And they were sold out before the pandemic, no less.) 

[charlierc]

44 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Surprised at that many, only two years after those stadium gigs to boot. (And they were sold out before the pandemic, no less.) 

And doing Reading & Leeds (and Edinburgh and Belfast) last summer, but also that these shows, plus the ones in Manchester, Glasgow & Dublin, are all when there's an unchanged song pool.

Though if I'm fair I actually thought they'd be declaring a sell-out for all the O2 dates by now, given that's about the capacity of a Wembley.

[NorthernSoul52]

Four O2 Arenas equal a Wembley. (I've no idea if that's true! That's just what I've always had in my head.)

I love The Killers, and saw three shows on the run in 2022. But I do wish they'd switch it up a little bit more like their heroes when it comes to live performances. (This is doing them a slight disservice as, outside of festival season, there tends to be one or two songs per night that get a rarer run-out, but... they could do with broadening that pool in itself.)

[bingobear]

16 hours ago, incident said:

From memory, they're allowed a huge number. Can't remember exactly but it ends up being more than 20 concerts in addition to their sports fixtures. So the main obstacle to hitting the limit will be that there's probably not enough suitable dates in the summer.

pre pandemic the limit was always 12 which ones capital fms annual jolly gets added they will be at already  I'm sure I read somewhere it had been increased post pandemic so 20 or so could be about right 

AEW wrestling last year formed part of their non sports quota and assume that will be the case this year too. it also takes away a run of potential dates for their load in and out 

[incident]

1 minute ago, bingobear said:

pre pandemic the limit was always 12 which ones capital fms annual jolly gets added they will be at already  I'm sure I read somewhere it had been increased post pandemic so 20 or so could be about right 

AEW wrestling last year formed part of their non sports quota and assume that will be the case this year too. it also takes away a run of potential dates for their load in and out 

Yep - Google suggests that the limit is now 24 non-sporting and 22 sporting events. Which I can't see them getting near.

[charlierc]

7 minutes ago, bingobear said:

AEW wrestling last year formed part of their non sports quota and assume that will be the case this year too. it also takes away a run of potential dates for their load in and out 

Gotta love how an event with wrestling in the actual name and dressed up in the pageantry of sports doesn't count as sport.

[sheffinghell]

1 hour ago, charlierc said:

Gotta love how an event with wrestling in the actual name and dressed up in the pageantry of sports doesn't count as sport.

I googled, out of interest. There's a huge debate over whether AWE is pro-wrestling or sports entertainment. The jury's out. I suppose the difference is they are not 'amateur' - i.e. Olympics type sport. And there's shed loads of money in it.

[charlierc]

4 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Four O2 Arenas equal a Wembley. (I've no idea if that's true! That's just what I've always had in my head.)

I love The Killers, and saw three shows on the run in 2022. But I do wish they'd switch it up a little bit more like their heroes when it comes to live performances. (This is doing them a slight disservice as, outside of festival season, there tends to be one or two songs per night that get a rarer run-out, but... they could do with broadening that pool in itself.)

Six shows at Wembley would probably on math be about the same as two at the Arsenal stadium, which is where they went in 2022 on the Imploding the Mirage cycle.

Midnight Show is the obscurity I'd love to see (and had I gone to Cardiff in 2019 as I was contemplating, I'd have got it) but I do agree they do tend to get stuck in a setlist groove. But as it's explicitly for a greatest hits compilation in the form of Rebel Diamonds, it's kinda just bracing for the only real change to be that boy, Spirit and Your Side of Town make appearances rather than a deep cut.

Saying that there's also the nature that they might be off for a bit as Brandon was declaring he has a solo album ready to go in 2025.

[charlierc]

2 hours ago, sheffinghell said:

I googled, out of interest. There's a huge debate over whether AWE is pro-wrestling or sports entertainment. The jury's out. I suppose the difference is they are not 'amateur' - i.e. Olympics type sport. And there's shed loads of money in it.

Pro-wrestling has that all around, given there's that dissonance on whether the bigger name WWE counts as sport or not. The fact I've gathered they've used actual TV drama writers to map it out doesn't help.

Though totally. If they're selling out Wembley, it's got hype.

[NorthernSoul52]

32 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Six shows at Wembley would probably on math be about the same as two at the Arsenal stadium, which is where they went in 2022 on the Imploding the Mirage cycle.

Midnight Show is the obscurity I'd love to see (and had I gone to Cardiff in 2019 as I was contemplating, I'd have got it) but I do agree they do tend to get stuck in a setlist groove. But as it's explicitly for a greatest hits compilation in the form of Rebel Diamonds, it's kinda just bracing for the only real change to be that boy, Spirit and Your Side of Town make appearances rather than a deep cut.

Saying that there's also the nature that they might be off for a bit as Brandon was declaring he has a solo album ready to go in 2025.

I'm more shocked Brandon isn't touring solo this year, given that I reckon a good chunk of his solo band would be the current live line-up of The Killers minus Ronnie (and Dave when he rocks up).

I saw Midnight Show twice - sorry! That was my deep cut on Sheffield and Doncaster.

My big hope is that it's more of its own beast than an extension of Imploding the Mirage. Get some of those lesser-played songs on the Rebel Diamonds album - Be Still, Quiet Town - out and into the fray for good.

[charlierc]

7 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

I'm more shocked Brandon isn't touring solo this year, given that I reckon a good chunk of his solo band would be the current live line-up of The Killers minus Ronnie (and Dave when he rocks up).

I saw Midnight Show twice - sorry! That was my deep cut on Sheffield and Doncaster.

My big hope is that it's more of its own beast than an extension of Imploding the Mirage. Get some of those lesser-played songs on the Rebel Diamonds album - Be Still, Quiet Town - out and into the fray for good.

When I saw they played it in Doncaster a few nights before my night seeing them in Coventry, it made me super hopeful we'd get it, but alas, not to be. We did tbf get a few surprises - Getting By II was cool, River is Wild is fun (even if I'd seen it multiple times before), Be Still was a great surprise - but not the one I was hoping for.

I'm curious tbf for the upcoming Vegas Hot Fuss shows - Change Your Mind is on the US version of Hot Fuss but several other places had Glamorous Indie instead.

I also have spotted that the guy who's been playing bass live for The Killers since Mark Stoermer retired from touring was in Brandon's solo band on both his albums so far, so can imagine there's other cross-over as well.

[NorthernSoul52]

10 hours ago, charlierc said:

When I saw they played it in Doncaster a few nights before my night seeing them in Coventry, it made me super hopeful we'd get it, but alas, not to be. We did tbf get a few surprises - Getting By II was cool, River is Wild is fun (even if I'd seen it multiple times before), Be Still was a great surprise - but not the one I was hoping for.

I'm curious tbf for the upcoming Vegas Hot Fuss shows - Change Your Mind is on the US version of Hot Fuss but several other places had Glamorous Indie instead.

I also have spotted that the guy who's been playing bass live for The Killers since Mark Stoermer retired from touring was in Brandon's solo band on both his albums so far, so can imagine there's other cross-over as well.

I'd have loved the Coventry setlist, but hey ho. These things happen!

I think they'll play the US version, but at the same time, I'm not convinced they'll necessarily do it front to back. Spit-balling here if they did:

1 Jenny Was a Friend of Mine
2 Mr. Brightside
3 Smile Like You Mean It
4 Somebody Told Me
5 All These Things That I've Done
6 Andy, You're a Star
7 On Top
8 Change Your Mind
9 Believe Me Natalie
10 Midnight Show
11 Everything Will Be Alright in the End

12 Human
13 Glamorous Indie Rock and Roll
14 Runaways
15 Read My Mind
16 Caution
17 Under the Gun
18 When You Were Young

[giantkatestacks]

When do BST generally announce supports? Is it super late?

[incident]

42 minutes ago, giantkatestacks said:

When do BST generally announce supports? Is it super late?

Varies massively.

Sometimes it's on the initial announcement, sometimes it's really late in the day. Often somewhere between.

My assumption is that there'll be more urgency if they feel they need a boost in ticket sales (assuming the acts they have are likely to provide that).

[NorthernSoul52]

Yeah, I thought it was usually the case they'd bring the main sub along initially. But not right now.

[jannybruck]

The Corrs have a weird London shaped hole in their touring for November, so presume they've got a summer exclusive somewhere like this.

[NorthernSoul52]

1 hour ago, jannybruck said:

The Corrs have a weird London shaped hole in their touring for November, so presume they've got a summer exclusive somewhere like this.

I'd assume a sub, but honestly, nothing would surprise me these days.

[incident]

4 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

I'd assume a sub, but honestly, nothing would surprise me these days.

Yeah they'd be a very natural fit to play under Stevie Wonder. Or to a lesser extent Shania Twain.

[NorthernSoul52]

Shania Twain would fit nicely, when I think about it.

[GrumpyRaver]

On 2/6/2024 at 1:08 PM, incident said:

Yeah they'd be a very natural fit to play under Stevie Wonder. Or to a lesser extent Shania Twain.

What exactly makes twee 90s Irish folk/sh*t pop hybrid The Corrs a perfect fit to support one of the greatest musical talents of all time?