The Crimson King Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Goldie at We Out Here with a live show. Could see him at Field Day or another dance led day like the Disclosure one. Not headlining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Lizzo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 While I’m talking to myself… haha. Gonna also predict a second Stormzy show will be announced if it sells out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted November 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, The Crimson King said: While I’m talking to myself… haha. Gonna also predict a second Stormzy show will be announced if it sells out If you saying if, you think it may not sell out. Therefore seems unlikely a second one would be announced if sell out is not a certainty. I don't see a second date myself, he's never been a huge seller, that would be 90k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 54 minutes ago, gfa said: If you saying if, you think it may not sell out. Therefore seems unlikely a second one would be announced if sell out is not a certainty. I don't see a second date myself, he's never been a huge seller, that would be 90k. It’s not about whether it sells out, it’ll be about demand and how quickly the tickets sell. I wonder if they might follow the BST model. He’s arguably a bigger and more ‘relevant’ headliner than anyone else they had booked and could probably have done Hyde Park. Recent Glastonbury headliner is a big deal for APE in that sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, The Crimson King said: While I’m talking to myself… haha. Gonna also predict a second Stormzy show will be announced if it sells out Realistically, conditional second shows are more likely for permanent venues where they can briefly hold the venue and release it if the show doesn't materialise than for something like APE. With the APE dates being limited and semi-fixed, they need to have a bit more certainty in their planning - so if there's to be a second show, then it'll already need be pretty much locked in well before the first one is even announced. They won't want to create a situation where they risk not running one of their days, and it'd be too troublesome to put together alternative/standby headliners or even whole lineups with different possibilities based on whether that second show get activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 9 hours ago, incident said: Realistically, conditional second shows are more likely for permanent venues where they can briefly hold the venue and release it if the show doesn't materialise than for something like APE. With the APE dates being limited and semi-fixed, they need to have a bit more certainty in their planning - so if there's to be a second show, then it'll already need be pretty much locked in well before the first one is even announced. They won't want to create a situation where they risk not running one of their days, and it'd be too troublesome to put together alternative/standby headliners or even whole lineups with different possibilities based on whether that second show get activated. My understanding is that is exactly what APE have decided this year. The source was the same for Pink at BST, so I have reason to believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, The Crimson King said: My understanding is that is exactly what APE have decided this year. The source was the same for Pink at BST, so I have reason to believe it. Fair enough - so what happens if the second show doesn't get triggered? Have they got a "reserve" lineup ready to go, or are they going to be scrambling for something last minute? Feels like a risk if they're not confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetmark Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, incident said: Fair enough - so what happens if the second show doesn't get triggered? Have they got a "reserve" lineup ready to go, or are they going to be scrambling for something last minute? Feels like a risk if they're not confident. I don't see it being much of a risk as its his only uk shows of the year on the back of a new album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted November 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, The Crimson King said: My understanding is that is exactly what APE have decided this year. The source was the same for Pink at BST, so I have reason to believe it. 14 hours ago it was i predict if it sells out now its i know ??? interesting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dales Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Does Stomzy normally shift loads of tickets to really be able to sell out 2 dates? I remember when he headlined Glastonbury thinking that was a huge step up for him. While recognising what a signicant event him headling was, I also thought that if he could headline that year, so could have George Ezra. Was he realy shifting more concert tickets and records then George Ezra then or even now? Does he usually do multiple arena dates or put on big park gigs? I guess we will find out next year. I guess 2 days headlined by Stormzy with different support each day could attract double bookings for those who like that style of music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannybruck Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 30 minutes ago, Dales said: Does Stomzy normally shift loads of tickets to really be able to sell out 2 dates? I remember when he headlined Glastonbury thinking that was a huge step up for him. While recognising what a signicant event him headling was, I also thought that if he could headline that year, so could have George Ezra. Was he realy shifting more concert tickets and records then George Ezra then or even now? Does he usually do multiple arena dates or put on big park gigs? I guess we will find out next year. I guess 2 days headlined by Stormzy with different support each day could attract double bookings for those who like that style of music. He's solidly arena level now and did three nights at the O2 earlier this year, so yeah he does shift tickets particularly in London. An additional night might be a stretch but as we saw from last year I don't think APE are hugely bothered about constant sell-outs anymore and have probably figured out their maths by now, but it'll definitely sell well with a decent support bill or a couple of exclusives. They'll definitely be stepping on Wireless' toes with that undercard though, which will be interesting to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, gfa said: 14 hours ago it was i predict if it sells out now its i know ??? interesting If you read the context of the forum back, I’ve been saying for a while that I believe APE will only be four shows until they can gauge sales. The Stormzy second show idea is speculation on my part, but would make sense with the other info I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Commander Jefferson Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Would be a shame in APE are using up two of their dates on one artist but money talks I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dales Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, jannybruck said: He's solidly arena level now and did three nights at the O2 earlier this year, so yeah he does shift tickets particularly in London. Thanks, sounds like he does the numbers to justify the booking. I just wish his date was the following weekend when i am away at Victorious. Really hoping he does not do a second night the same weekend. I just wish APE would hurry up and announce the additional gig or gigs for the Stromzy weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetmark Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Stormzy supposedly £85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted November 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Muppetmark said: Stormzy supposedly £85 pretty inline with this years shows + the inflation of like 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dales Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Not sure if this pre-sale link will work for those who did not get a link. http://t.e-comms.allpointseastfestival.com/r/?id=h3bd38b02,8b187ca,60bfa7d&uk_et_cid=APE-EMAIL-StormzyAPEPresale-161122&uk_et_rid=1_158216494927502 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scatteredscreens Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, gfa said: All Points East Present 'This is how you abuse women day' with Arcade Fire and Win Butler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterplow Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Arcade Fire seem like a shout for this now. So does FATM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, misterplow said: Arcade Fire seem like a shout for this now. So does FATM. For sure, could see both or at least one turning up. Arcade Fire were one of my favourites but I just don't think I could see them again given Win's behaviour and lack of compassion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Are you guys discounting The Strokes due to it being too soon since they last played? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandsrcool Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Noticed War on Drugs touring around APE with no London date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted November 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, luckysalt said: Are you guys discounting The Strokes due to it being too soon since they last played? chems did the same year and played this year so a smaller gap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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