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[Neil]

Interesting read and something to remember when Labour aren't filling your wish list 

[steviewevie]

At some point someone is going to have to be honest with the country about our levels of tax and investment in public services.

 

[Skip997]

56 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

easy to say any old sh*t when you know you'll never have to actually do it.

 

seriously trying to mitigate climate change by implementing Net Zero will actually create jobs.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

At some point someone is going to have to be honest with the country about our levels of tax and investment in public services.

 

I would imagine that those people would conveniently have to be Labour, the Tories never have to answer this. 

[steviewevie]

Big terrorist attack in Iran 👀 

[Neil]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Big terrorist attack in Iran 👀 

probably mossad, it normally is.

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

probably mossad, it normally is.

Now then!!

Didn't expect that

[fred quimby]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Big terrorist attack in Iran 👀 

*Heads to bunker to wait the war out*

[Neil]

18 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Now then!!

Didn't expect that

i always expect Israel to take action against those who threaten its existence.

[Skip997]

Just now, Neil said:

i always expect Israel to take action against those who threaten its existence.

Ah now, that's more like you

How about the action they take against those who don't threaten their existence. Where do you draw the line? Do ypu even have a line?

[steviewevie]

59 minutes ago, Neil said:

i always expect Israel to take action against those who threaten its existence.

what like people visiting a memorial?

Anyway, this could actually be a sunni terrorist group like ISIS, it isn't always all about Israel in that region...

[Skip997]

2 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

How can you tell all the way over here ?

I presume you are grown up enough to accept that legitimate military operations do result in collateral damage and that this is justifiable part of warfare ?  Both legally and sensibly ?   That doesn't justify everything but a lot of what you complain about.

Justifiable according to who?

The idea of legality within war is laughable and to a large extent illustrates why the human race is so f**ked up.

Also I suspect the Israeli actions far exceed the "legal" boundaries.

There is something very wrong (morally) with anyone who thinks they can justify the continuing slaughter of mainly innocents in some blood thirsty revenge.

[steviewevie]

34 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Justifiable according to who?

The idea of legality within war is laughable and to a large extent illustrates why the human race is so f**ked up.

Also I suspect the Israeli actions far exceed the "legal" boundaries.

There is something very wrong (morally) with anyone who thinks they can justify the continuing slaughter of mainly innocents in some blood thirsty revenge.

yeah...Israel crossed that line. You can't just say Hamas are using civilians as human shields and holding up in hospitals to justify blowing up hospitals full of patients. Same with all the other places being targeted because there might be some Hamas in a tunnel beneath or whatever. Whole thing is completely f**ked.

[Skip997]

6 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

You are basically trying to take an anti war stance while taking no stance against terrorism.  Its a strange place to be but you seem happy.
 

You'll probably not be surprised to learn that I don't accept the term terrorism, unless it's applied to states committing acts that terrify.

[Guest]

 

[Skip997]

10 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

So what would you call Hamas ? 

The military unit of a government.

[steviewevie]

Looking like an autumn election.

[kalifire]

Rishi running scared of the public vote while Keir enjoys a good reception.

[steviewevie]

so...early or late autumn?

BET NOW!

[stuie]

23 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

so...early or late autumn?

BET NOW!

So he's going for annihilation in the local elections then? 

Should be interesting. 

 

[lazyred]

4 hours ago, Skip997 said:

The military unit of a government.

Govts should be judged according to international law. Hamas raped, killed and abducted civilians on Oct 7. What military aim justifies this?

[Neil]

50 minutes ago, stuie said:

So he's going for annihilation in the local elections then? 

Should be interesting. 

 

should be another new leader.

[steviewevie]

well I guess Sunak had to weigh up the risks...risk of going in May when still polling so badly, or leave it till later in the year and hope things improve and something crops up, but then is risk of looking like running scared, putting power before country etc...which I'm sure Labour will keep banging on about.

[Neil]

what a surprise Michael Jackson is on the Epstein paedo list!

[Skip997]

26 minutes ago, lazyred said:

Govts should be judged according to international law. Hamas raped, killed and abducted civilians on Oct 7. What military aim justifies this?

Yes all great in theory, but all governments aren't judged equally and some not at all.