When will this shit end?

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, JoeyT said:

Yeah I’m certainly not saying you’d like one mate don’t worry.

I just personally don’t see a curfew working as well as people might think especially with what you’ve mentioned in regards to lockdown fatigue.

Although numbers are high and likely to get much worse I’m not sure the compliance is there anymore.

We’re nearly a year in to restrictions!

 

It would certainly be the last tool they could / would use .... anyway Oxford is here , nearly so lets celebrate that 🙂 

[Fuzzy Afro]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

It’ll be monday I think for Oxford. All the other news has come on Mondays has it not 

Won’t be Monday 28th as that’s a bank holiday. Won’t be ready for this Monday. The vaccine efficacy data dropping on Mondays was pure coincidence. 
 

“Within days of Christmas” suggests to me it’ll be 29th-31st Dec

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Won’t be Monday 28th as that’s a bank holiday. Won’t be ready for this Monday. The vaccine efficacy data dropping on Mondays was pure coincidence. 
 

“Within days of Christmas” suggests to me it’ll be 29th-31st Dec

within days of christmas I would take it as 6 days either side .... 

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Won’t be Monday 28th as that’s a bank holiday. Won’t be ready for this Monday. The vaccine efficacy data dropping on Mondays was pure coincidence. 
 

“Within days of Christmas” suggests to me it’ll be 29th-31st Dec

Article in telegraph says 28th or 29th

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Article in telegraph says 28th or 29th

spoilsport that could have been 2 pages of discussion 🙂 

[zahidf]

Oh great

 

[Punksnotdead]

9 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Article in telegraph says 28th or 29th

My birthday is the 29th - that would be the best present I've had in years!

[zahidf]

 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Oh great

 

The elephant in the room here is Christmas isn’t it. 

[Punksnotdead]

I suppose the one advantage of pubs being closed means there's no black-eye Friday this year - I imagine the police are delighted!

[stuartbert two hats]

28 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Oxford vaccine 1-2 weeks away 

It's Christmas on Friday, sooner than 1-2 weeks.

[Copperface]

23 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

within days of christmas I would take it as 6 days either side .... 

I knew I had heard Hancock say something about this in the HoC yesterday, when he said the other day about the mass vaccination centres not opening for a few weeks until AZ had been rolled out. Would tie in with opening them up second or third week of January.

 

Edited December 18, 2020 by Copperface

[Fuzzy Afro]

9 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

It's Christmas on Friday, sooner than 1-2 weeks.

Christmas is a week away and it’ll be approved days after that, ie 10-11 days from now ie 1-2 weeks 

[xxialac]

1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said:

they are all over Europe now and its a tool that hasn't been used here as yet .... Ive no need to be going out ... its dark and horrible outside  , where are you ? and does it seem to be bringing infection levels down ? 

In Spain. Really no idea if it works but they seem to be sticking with it. 

But yeah, I'd hate it in the Summer but in the depths of Winter, it's alright.

[Fuzzy Afro]

23 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Oh great

 

I’ve seen evidence suggesting R in London is 1.75. That makes zero sense given the amount of distancing going on.

 

The ONLY plausible explanation is the new strain is MUCH more contagious (R0 of 5-6)

 

This is really bad. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

"An emergency toughening of Covid restrictions could be announced as soon as Saturday after Boris Johnson was handed alarming new evidence of the virulence of a mutant strain of the virus. The Prime Minister called an unscheduled meeting of senior ministers on Friday night to discuss how to contain the new variant , which has so far been largely confined to London and the South East.

Travel restrictions are among the measures under discussion, with one source suggesting the Government could even restrict travel between the South East and other parts of the country. An alternative would be to ban commuters from travelling into London, after the mutant strain, which originated in Kent, spread rapidly to London and then the home counties.

Much of the South East was put into Tier 3 by the Government only on Thursday, but the new information about the transmissibility of the mutant strain was so worrying that ministers fear they may have to act immediately. Government scientists at the Porton Down laboratory in Wiltshire have been conducting experiments on the new strain, and have confirmed ministers' fears about it being far more infectious than the original strain of the virus.

One source in the scientific community said there were "concerns in government" about the new strain after the evidence was presented to ministers on Friday afternoon. "The evidence that the new strain of the virus more easily transmits from one person to another has hardened up," said the source. The meeting of ministers was expected to continue late into the night, with Whitehall sources refusing to rule out a press conference on Saturday to announce additional restrictions.

Mr Johnson has been adamant that he will not change the law allowing up to three households to get together over Christmas, but has already advised families to keep their "bubbles" as small as possible."

[Guest]

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/yes-curfews-can-help-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-heres-how
 

Some might find this interesting on curfews. 

[zahidf]

[zahidf]

17 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I’ve seen evidence suggesting R in London is 1.75. That makes zero sense given the amount of distancing going on.

 

The ONLY plausible explanation is the new strain is MUCH more contagious (R0 of 5-6)

 

This is really bad. 

Have you been on a tube in London or Oxford Street? Not so much distancing...

One early theory was that it would eventually become more infectious but less deadly. That's.... not a bad thing.

 

Also

 

Edited December 18, 2020 by zahidf

[Copperface]

27 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I’ve seen evidence suggesting R in London is 1.75. That makes zero sense given the amount of distancing going on.

 

Or it might be that people actually are being a bit reckless and ignoring distancing guidance:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/18/seven-arrested-after-crowds-of-hundreds-descend-on-pub-in-tier-three-13770982/

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/16/thousands-hit-pubs-for-last-drink-of-2020-as-more-areas-plunge-into-tier-three-13758779/

Saw some other different footage on the news tonight as well of central London somewhere which was scarcely believable.

 

Edited December 18, 2020 by Copperface

[stuartbert two hats]

9 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I’ve seen evidence suggesting R in London is 1.75. That makes zero sense given the amount of distancing going on.

 

The ONLY plausible explanation is the new strain is MUCH more contagious (R0 of 5-6)

 

This is really bad. 

Or the seasonal factors make it more contagious. The new strain is supposed to be mainly in the SE, yet the lockdown has lost its power in the NW.  Could it just be the weather?

[Guest]

It’s probably wise to go by the ONS for the R number rather than a rough estimate by someone on here 😉

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, Ozanne said:

It’s probably wise to go by the ONS for the R number rather than a rough estimate by someone on here 😉

It’s by your mate BristOliver

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Or the seasonal factors make it more contagious. The new strain is supposed to be mainly in the SE, yet the lockdown has lost its power in the NW.  Could it just be the weather?

This was always going to happen in the winter, there were warnings given to the government which they haven’t heeded. 

[zahidf]

Thats good so far