2020 headliners

[CaledonianGonzo]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

I agree but for different reasons. Glasto HQ would probably contact her team. Her team would leave Glasto on read.

Even with her career starting to head firmly off the boil? Playing Glastonbury next year is the smart move and if she's as canny an operator as she comes across then you'd have to notice which way the wind is blowing.

[Matt42]

15 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Even with her career starting to head firmly off the boil? Playing Glastonbury next year is the smart move and if she's as canny an operator as she comes across then you'd have to notice which way the wind is blowing.

It’s not? She’s still charting very high in America and her tours still sell out. She ain’t bothered.

Edited July 12, 2019 by Matt42

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, Matt42 said:

It’s not? She’s still charting very high in America. She ain’t bothered.

Nah. She is for sure exiting her imperial phase.

Katy Perry’s And Taylor Swift’s Flops Are Bad News For Big Pop

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/pdominguez/taylor-swift-katy-perry-boring-risk-taking-pop-music#aoh=15629321316547&amp_ct=1562932245612&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

 

 

Whether or not that changes her POV on playing festivals is of course a different matter.

[Matt42]

6 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Whether or not that changes her POV on playing festivals is of course a different matter.

“Hi Taylor. We’ve heard that you’re having a bit of a nosedive in your career. Fancy coming over to Pilton your career could really need it”

(all of these photos were taken in 2018).

Yes she might be exiting her chart imperial phase but her touring force is going nowhere.

Edited July 12, 2019 by Matt42

[CaledonianGonzo]

I was at one of the Wembley shows. I know she's still a a live draw and the Rep shows are maybe the biggest stadium production I've ever seen.  But 2 years is a long time in pop.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

Me was her first lead single since Mine not to hit #1 in America. It’s certainly not at the ‘make or break’ stage yet where she should be panicking into begging TV festivals for slots, like Rihanna probably should. But her trajectory is undeniably headed in that general direction.

Edited July 12, 2019 by Rose-Colored Boy

[CaledonianGonzo]

I dont think she'd be begging Glastonbury, but I don't see why it wouldn't be mutually beneficial.

[Matt42]

Let’s not forget that both her singles were blocked by old town road... which is set to break the record for most weeks at #1 in US charting history.

No one can compete with a song that young kids and grandmas are both streaming and purchasing.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Aye but Reputation was already a step down success-wise from what preceded it.

[Penrhos]

I'm hoping EE's push for more women headlining and a 50/50 split on gender will result in Pink, Gaga or Taylor Swift being in one of the Pyramid headline slots for 2020.

I'm dreading Coldplay, Fleetwood Mac & Macca as headliners for 2020 (or any other 3-way male headliner split).

Edited July 12, 2019 by Penrhos

[whitehorses]

1 hour ago, gordong said:

Between her and the 1975, I’m not sure I’m out of touch or people are delusional. 

I’d take Swift over 1975 any day of the week. And I don’t like Swift, but do generally like men with guitars. Think Swift would be an awesome Pyramid headliner given the current direction of travel. Didn’t go to a Pyramid headliner this year, but I would’ve gone to Swift. 

Whenever people start applauding 1975 I assume they’ve got their CDs in the wrong boxes. Dross. 

 

Edit: But if we’re gonna have a women pop act #1 choice is Gaga obvs

Edited July 12, 2019 by caballosblancos
Gaga

[Matt42]

3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Aye but Reputation was already a step down success-wise from what preceded it.

This argument is going round in circles but my point is that she is still at a level a bit too big for Glastonbury. It’l only happen if she steps down and considers Glastonbury worth her time. 

My point is that amongst all potential female headliners for 2020 she’s not the most likely one to do it. There are too many factors which would count against it.

I believe Ariana, Rihanna, Beyoncé again lol are more likely because they’ve done festivals and aren’t tied to stadium only touring dates. Until Rihanna announces a tour I honestly think Ariana is the most likely female headliner (if we will get one) for 2020.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Guess the question is whether anyone is ever *too big* for the Pymild. I'd argue no, at least not now that the Stones and U2 have done it.

[Matt42]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Guess the question is whether anyone is ever *too big* for the Pymild. I'd argue no, at least not now that the Stones and U2 have done it.

I don’t think it’s an objective question really. I think it should be whether the act themselves considers themselves too big for Glastonbury.

many acts come to mind when it’s framed like that

[CaledonianGonzo]

So it depends on how astute she is at reading the tea leaves. And whether or not she liked her pint of Burrow Hill.

[ghostdancer1]

1 hour ago, dentalplan said:

It’s well-reported that the tour flopped, just so ya know. Still stadiums though.

aye, here in Dublin they literally couldn't give away the tickets. 10s of thousands of tickets went to sports clubs for free (my small local club was given a few hundred), bundles given away on radio competitions etc. Still didn't fill the 2 nights. Enormous flop.

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, Penrhos said:

I'm dreading Fleetwood Mac (or any other 3-way male headliner split).

eh?

[gordong]

As a matter of personal taste, I think Lady Gaga is a far more credible pop star than Taylor Swift. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Credibility is a construct, man.

They're both great and I'd happy to see either of them, if not both 

[Hugh Jass]

22 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Guess the question is whether anyone is ever *too big* for the Pymild. I'd argue no, at least not now that the Stones and U2 have done it.

I don’t think anybody is “too big”. Headlining Glastonbury is regarded as one of the biggest gigs in the world, especially in recent years given the exposure the festival has received worldwide.

The more pertinent question is whether anyone is “too expensive” for the Pyramid.

[CaledonianGonzo]

So Swizzle isn't too expensive for Radio 1....

[Rose-Colored Boy]

2 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

 

The more pertinent question is whether anyone is “too expensive” for the Pyramid.

...and who else, besides the Stones, the fest regards as prestigious enough to pay above their usual rates to secure. Beyoncé would definitely fit into that category if she hadn’t played before. T-Swizz, I’m not so sure.

[Hugh Jass]

6 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

So Swizzle isn't too expensive for Radio 1....

I don't imagine T-Swiz would pose too many issues in terms of fee. Was thinking more about the likes of Madge and The Mac.

[Hugh Jass]

4 minutes ago, Rose-Colored Boy said:

...and who else, besides the Stones, the fest regards as prestigious enough to pay above their usual rates to secure. Beyoncé would definitely fit into that category if she hadn’t played before. T-Swizz, I’m not so sure.

Given the noises being made by the Eavii I'd guess they'd go above and beyond for Fleetwood Mac.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Even tgough theyre hot properties, relative newbies / solo acts like Swizzle and Gaga will still be way cheaper than U2 or the Stones.