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[Tobieski]

I'm not talking about The Killers .

[sjseabass]

I don't think Snow Patrol have ever played R&L and Coldplay was when they were tiny. I doubt Snow Patrol could headline any other fest apart from T as they've got a loose Scottish connection which is why they are always playing there.

[sjseabass]

My bad, I thought you were talking about the headliners as a whole. Nevertheless, I don't think R+L will go down that route, there would be serious outrage among many...

Edited December 5, 2012 by theevilfridge

[jump]

Fair enough, that's borne out by them subbing V this year. I guess it just surprised me that an act who is out-and-out, unashamedly singles-based chart pop is headlining T, but no-one else really commented on it .

[Luke Routledge]

I don't think Snow Patrol have ever played R&L and Coldplay was when they were tiny. I doubt Snow Patrol could headline any other fest apart from T as they've got a loose Scottish connection which is why they are always playing there.

[jump]

Do you think Coldplay could ever headline R&L? Personally I dont see why not

[gazza_20]

is Mumford and Sons heading glasto really unrealistic, they always share a headliner with T. and it's thought fairly well that The Killers at glasto isn't going to happen.

[thetime]

Ive only been quickly flicking through the posts this week but is sonisphere on? There seems alot of talk.

[kev1664]

Lol, t-shirt sales.

Arcade Fire could never play Download, aren't a heavier band and have a different demographic within R+L. They're not comparable to SOAD.

Bands could still announce tour plans up until mid February. I don't think you can rule out any band on the "we've not heard anything" line until then.

SOAD really aren't that big. If they play R+L without having a successful new album, they won't headline.

[jump]

Ive only been quickly flicking through the posts this week but is sonisphere on? There seems alot of talk.

Edited December 5, 2012 by jump

[DL50]

I just don't see Sabbath at Reading, happy to be proved wrong though. I'm thinking Depeche Mode, Mumfords and Blur.

[gazza_20]

Same here, i just don't think they would fit with R&L at all. But as they are SR still we have to accept them

As for Depeche mode i just don't see that working either, however i think they would be a great sub under Blur

[jump]

Still does not detract from that Blink were a success for the festival at the time, however much people on here thought they weren't big enough, just like the argument when MCR weren't big enough and 30stm wouldn't sub. People less popular than system are at the minute in the uk have headlined.

Arcade fire and SOAD are comparable, because they've both played R&L before and both fit the demographic of the festival, we're not talking about download at all. The point is at the time AF headlined they were no bigger, if not smaller in the uk than SOAD are at this time.

As far as system being a sub we can because if they were touring they would only headline , maybe another festival, but if they don't headline they won't be on this years R&L bill.

I'll remember that last statement.

[kev1664]

I've said to you on the other page System have never had a platinum album or done an arena tour in the UK whilst Blink, My Chem, Aracade Fire all have before headlining R&L so what exactly makes you think System are bigger?

[gazza_20]

I've said to you on the other page System have never had a platinum album or done an arena tour in the UK whilst Blink, My Chem, Aracade Fire all have before headlining R&L so what exactly makes you think System are bigger?

[Tobieski]

I mentioned it a while ago I could see it happen (after one of the bookers saying something about wanting 2/3 British bands to headline but has never managed to do it) simply because they are along with Muse the biggest British band out there and R&L is a British fest so sooner or later it may be worth chucking them up on the bill just the once but Coldplay don't seem to be that fond on non-Glasto fests tho.

[Mouseboy11]

i've said it a few times, SOAD play, they sub

[jump]

They never got the chance to do the arena tour because they went on hiatus, if they toured now it would be arenas.

They are as big or bigger than those at the tome of headlining due to the fact they have only had one UK show in 7 years, and only 12 in Europe in that time. As much as all of the above factor are true when it comes to booking bands for headlining so does the demand and the number of chances for people to see them, If people haven't had the chance to see them there will be a big demand for it.

If system had have done a whole load of shows I'd be more inclined to go the other way and say they would sub, but current climate and lack of shows means they would only headline.

[mrtourette]

This argument is now settled, an answer has been found. What's next?

[jump]

I think Coldplay are far too 'generic' or whatever for the reading and leeds crowd, without sounding like too much of a hipster. That's why I don't get all this Depeche Mode talk, these bands just aren't what R+L is about

[Tobieski]

R&L normally have at least 1 generic headliner tho.

[mrtourette]

Thoroughly agree, they've been a headline-size band for years and years and have never played while the likes of Muse have headlined twice in that period. They just aren't suited to who R&L are trying to attract or the image that they're trying to convey (although the difference gets smaller and smaller every year), although I can imagine if times were hard they'd jump at the chance.

Edited December 5, 2012 by mrtourette

[kaosmark2]

I think Coldplay are far too 'generic' or whatever for the reading and leeds crowd, without sounding like too much of a hipster. That's why I don't get all this Depeche Mode talk, these bands just aren't what R+L is about

[SOAD]

I'll make one last comment on SOAD... I don't know why people think they will sub... they are clearly not a subbing band anymore... I can totally understand the not playing argument but they really don't need to accept a sub slot anywhere now... Plus they had one of the biggest crowds I have seen at Download and that was against a huge second stage headliner in Alice Cooper... they have the fanbase...

As far as record sales etc metal bands don't really get platinum records over here in the UK (other than Linkin Park)... Black Sabbath don't even have a platinum record in the UK... Slipknot don't (and they have headlined three fests in recent years)... Metallica and Iron Maiden only have 5 between the two of them (consider how many albums they have released and that they are probably the two biggest metal acts of all time)... Rammstein haven't even had a gold album over here and yet they play huge arena tours and headline UK fests... none of these bands play sub slots at UK fests anymore I very much doubt SOAD would.

SOAD would easily do an arena tour if they toured the UK now... they don't need to take a sub slot at Reading. I would argue they are easily one of the biggest metal acts of the modern era. I would also argue System would be much more suited to headlining Reading than Black Sabbath... I know most of my friends who love Foos, Blink 182, Green Day etc love System.

Ps I don't think they are going to play anyway... if they do any UK fest this year it will be Soni imo

Edited December 5, 2012 by SOAD

[Mouseboy11]

One thing that sticks in my head from this years Reading is actually Chop Suey coming on at the mainstage and everyone singing along.