2013 Lineup

[Tobieski]

Who though? The only real pop punk band who fits that slot atm are Paramore and they played last year... Fall Out Boy could have possibly got there eventually but I doubt they could if they came back now... and You Me At Six are still a way off..

[Tobieski]

On the point of it not mattering who plays second top, I think that's silly, the headliner wants the sub to whip the crown up into a frenzy so that they are ready for their set, if there is little cross over then it probably has less chance of happening as people would probably leave to see something similar.

[mrtourette]

Weezer are touring Australia at the start of the year and apparently have been working on a new album so an appearance may be possible, although I'm not sure in what slot. I can't see them any higher than last time, that slot was based on the demand to see them and their large amount of fans based on their history of work, I can't see how either of those could have increased much over the last couple of years.

[Yellow_Fellow]

Like 50 Cent x Green Day, Paramore x The Cure, Prodigy x Arctic Monkeys, Arcade Fire x RHCP, etc

[mrtourette]

It's logical that a headliner wants a sub to get the crowd in the right mood, but I'd imagine that it's pretty rare for a headliner to be able to dictate who subs them.

[kev1664]

Weezer are touring Australia at the start of the year and apparently have been working on a new album so an appearance may be possible, although I'm not sure in what slot. I can't see them any higher than last time, that slot was based on the demand to see them and their large amount of fans based on their history of work, I can't see how either of those could have increased much over the last couple of years.

[kev1664]

Like 50 Cent x Green Day, Paramore x The Cure, Prodigy x Arctic Monkeys, Arcade Fire x RHCP, etc

Edited December 5, 2012 by kev1664

[mrtourette]

Apart from the fact they were band of the weekend at both sites and pretty much blew everyone else off stage. I'm sure that the bookers would have noted that performance and had it in their minds from last time with a view to stepping up in the future. They certainly haven't lost any of their appeal.

They have the songs, they have the appeal and are a great festival band, a 70 minute slot would be great just before the headliner.

Edited December 5, 2012 by mrtourette

[cheeseisamazing]

They're planning on it being on next year, just like they were this year. While the fact they've said something is positive it's no guarantee. Have they even given dates yet?

[mrtourette]

true but if there Plannin' it must suggest they have some acts lined up- particularly if they want a pre-Christmas anocement

[jump]

Prodigy could easily headline a fest next year... plenty of options and after headlining a massive fest like Download why would they sub at Reading under an arguably smaller headliner... Jack White I don't see touring... Soundgarden would be amazing but dont see Reading so blatantly copying and arguably Soundgarden and Black Sabbath as top two really doesn't fit at Reading... Tool have taken so long to tour the UK surely they will headline a fest when they bother to play here... NIN if they do tour in 2013 then fair enough but again I don't see why they woudln't headline a fest after a decent time away.

[sjseabass]

All far far closer to each other than bloc party x sabbath. With enough crossover appeal to keep most of the fans there afterwards.

I just don't see the point in announcing sabbath (not that I believe they will play) then having any indie sub headliner, it'll detract a lot of day tick items away, there is far more bands that fit than bloc party.

[Luke Routledge]

Slam dunk announcement tomorrow....may have some exclusives....like always:(

[kev1664]

Paramore and The Cure have similar fanbases? Hmmm. Did you see their respective crowds? I don't really see how any of the pop-punk bands mentioned are that much better of a fit than Bloc Party. Is there that much crossover, really, just because both played Download?

I think what it comes down to is that Black Sabbath don't really fit the festival these days. Sad but true. And as a result, if they do play it will be with a much more recent band with a proven history of popularity at the festival before them, without necessarily sounding much like them. They did it this year with Paramore and The Cure. Bloc Party would fit the bill under Sabbath.

Imo.

[guitarbhoy1888]

does bands who play download ever play R&L too ?

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

More crossover was the term I used and yes they do have more crossover than bloc party and sabbath. I think Hayley Williams asked for that slot because she was a big fan of the cure, I also think the cure's catalogue is so big and touches a lot of different genres means that pretty much anyone would have been able to fit under them. After all the cure are 'Emo' (according to so many who passed judgement last year) and so are paramour 'emo' by those same standards.

The original point was made to a lineup prediction that had bloc party playing below sabbath on a day with other heavier bands deftones, billy talent, serj tankian . They looked out of place.

[mrtourette]

does bands who play download ever play R&L too ?

[mrtourette]

The original point was made to a lineup prediction that had bloc party playing below sabbath on a day with other heavier bands deftones, billy talent, serj tankian . They looked out of place.

Edited December 5, 2012 by mrtourette

[kev1664]

How great it would be is completely irrelevant, personally I'd have them headlining festivals but that doesn't mean shit.

They weren't big enough to sub last time despite people asking/begging for them for years, what you're saying is the fact that they put in a great performance will outweigh the fact that it'll be three years later and they've haven't really done anything to get any significant new fans to replace their old fans who will have drifted away? I'd have to disagree with that. Their performance no doubt got them the sub slot at Soni the following year but those things are easily forgotten, NIN were great subs in 07 but won't get bumped up as the fact that they aren't as relevant any more will play on the organiser's minds.

Like Interpol, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Offspring. etc. they will continue to be a third-spot band as they have a big if ageing following, enough cred to still appear in NME and as they're from the US are rarely around, but without recent mainstream exposure are unlikely to get bumped up.

I hope I'm wrong though.

[jump]

Paramore and The Cure have similar fanbases? Hmmm. Did you see their respective crowds? I don't really see how any of the pop-punk bands mentioned are that much better of a fit than Bloc Party. Is there that much crossover, really, just because both played Download?

I think what it comes down to is that Black Sabbath don't really fit the festival these days. Sad but true. And as a result, if they do play it will be with a much more recent band with a proven history of popularity at the festival before them, without necessarily sounding much like them. They did it this year with Paramore and The Cure. Bloc Party would fit the bill under Sabbath.

Imo.

[dentalplan]

Not much has been made of the effect of The Killers headlining TITP. The damage is probably either:

• Rihanna headlines T and V. Mumfords headline T and R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. Biffy sub T and headline R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. The Prodigy play R1/NME stage at T, headline R+L.

• Sharing headliners doesn't happen in 2013.

Pick one!

[Tobieski]

Not much has been made of the effect of The Killers headlining TITP. The damage is probably either:

• Rihanna headlines T and V. Mumfords headline T and R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. Biffy sub T and headline R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. The Prodigy play R1/NME stage at T, headline R+L.

• Sharing headliners doesn't happen in 2013.

Pick one!

[gazza_20]

Not much has been made of the effect of The Killers headlining TITP. The damage is probably either:

• Rihanna headlines T and V. Mumfords headline T and R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. Biffy sub T and headline R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. The Prodigy play R1/NME stage at T, headline R+L.

• Sharing headliners doesn't happen in 2013.

Pick one!

[dentalplan]

3rd one, The Prodigy would be out of this world live, although I think they're way too big to do the R1/NME tent

[jump]

Not much has been made of the effect of The Killers headlining TITP. The damage is probably either:

• Rihanna headlines T and V. Mumfords headline T and R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. Biffy sub T and headline R+L.

• Mumfords headline T and V. The Prodigy play R1/NME stage at T, headline R+L.

• Sharing headliners doesn't happen in 2013.

Pick one!