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pink_triangle Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 If the SNP needed a loan , why didn’t they ask a wealthy donor. To take it from the husband of the first minister just doesn’t pass the smell test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 Go Lib Dems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 Scottish independence is a question of if, not when, when=2023: according to @Comfy Beanin this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comfy Bean Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Neil said: Scottish independence is a question of if, not when, when=2023: according to @Comfy Beanin this thread. The direction of travel over the past couple of decades is only heading in one direction. The younger generation are in favour so I don’t expect the general direction to change although I expect recent events will see a pause. I don’t think Scotland will be independent in 2023. The camper van shenanigans I’m afraid don’t disqualify Scotland from being capable of running her own affairs and neither does the conduct (alleged) of a few individuals. If…..we we’re currently independent we’d be looking at a Labour government, if we didn’t already have one of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, Comfy Bean said: The direction of travel over the past couple of decades is only heading in one direction. The younger generation are in favour so I don’t expect the general direction to change although I expect recent events will see a pause. I don’t think Scotland will be independent in 2023. The camper van shenanigans I’m afraid don’t disqualify Scotland from being capable of running her own affairs and neither does the conduct (alleged) of a few individuals. If…..we we’re currently independent we’d be looking at a Labour government, if we didn’t already have one of course. Being as shit as the tories disqualifies Scotland from being anything better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 I hear humza is going to tell sunak to respect Scotland,. I hope sunak tells him to fuck off back to Scotland and respect the uk and the terms of the devolution settlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Neil said: I hear humza is going to tell sunak to respect Scotland,. I hope sunak tells him to fuck off back to Scotland and respect the uk and the terms of the devolution settlement. Rishi & Neil. Team UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, LJS said: Rishi & Neil. Team UK. I'm just pointing out that humzas reported request is part of a two way street, a bit less of the me,me,me, special me, from the sg would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 If humza doesn't respect devolution he's got no right of access to sunak, and if sunak doesn't respect Scotland then he won't be seeing humza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Neil said: If humza doesn't respect devolution Your definition of respecting devolution appears to be a one way street which consists of Westminster having a veto over anything Rishi doesn't like. The Scottish government is just joining refugees and Trans folk as the bad guys in the Tories' culture wars. And you fall for it because your enemy's enemy is your friend. Edited April 23, 2023 by LJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) The devolution settlement doesn't allow the sg to ignore westminster laws, if so, there is no devolution settlement and no SG. the SNP are on hold until the fraud is cleared up. Edited April 23, 2023 by Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, LJS said: Your definition of respecting devolution appears to be a one way street which consists of Westminster having a veto over anything Rishi doesn't like. The Scottish government is just joining refugees and Trans folk as the bad guys in the Tories' culture wars. And you fall for it because your enemy's enemy is your friend. I see you have your own list to invalidate the SG and humza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Neil said: The devolution settlement doesn't allow the sg to ignore westminster laws, if so, there is no devolution settlement and no SG. the SNP are on hold until the fraud is cleared up. Other interpretations are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, LJS said: Other interpretations are available. There's no interepatoin, only self serving fantasies, where Scots make it up for themselves, like how it didnt say once in a generation in the white paper or tell the Scottish people themselves that they can't have democracy, as they did when they rejected the settled view of Scotland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, Neil said: There's no interepatoin, only self serving fantasies, I agree. I think you can get help for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, LJS said: I agree. I think you can get help for it. Not sure anyone can treat the delusions of a whole country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Neil said: Not sure anyone can treat the delusions of a whole country I tend to agree. The UK is probably beyond help. I mean they keep voting in Tory governments when it's plain to see they are a bunch of crooks & charlatans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, LJS said: I tend to agree. The UK is probably beyond help. I mean they keep voting in Tory governments when it's plain to see they are a bunch of crooks & charlatans. Just like Scots keep voting SNP when it's obvious they're a bunch of crooks and charlatons. Trying to win Indy with hollow promises of extra riches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 8 hours ago, LJS said: I tend to agree. The UK is probably beyond help. I mean they keep voting in Tory governments when it's plain to see they are a bunch of crooks & charlatans. Hmmmm when will the SNPs audited account be available exactly? No fan of the Tories but its a bit rich for SNP to call other parties crooks at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, zahidf said: Hmmmm when will the SNPs audited account be available exactly? No fan of the Tories but its a bit rich for SNP to call other parties crooks at the moment. lack of self awareness - same as humza going to sunak and asking that Scotland is respected! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 21 hours ago, LJS said: Your definition of respecting devolution appears to be a one way street which consists of Westminster having a veto over anything Rishi doesn't like. The Scottish government is just joining refugees and Trans folk as the bad guys in the Tories' culture wars. And you fall for it because your enemy's enemy is your friend. I think this line is incredibly dismissive of the abuse refugees and trans folk suffer. It completely ignores the fact that what refugees and trans folk face isn't out of their own choices. In addition, the attacks on refugees and trans folk include direct, frequent assaults, supported on and cheered by the mass media and a large number of celebrities. This is a deeply unfair equivalency to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, kaosmark2 said: I think this line is incredibly dismissive of the abuse refugees and trans folk suffer. It completely ignores the fact that what refugees and trans folk face isn't out of their own choices. In addition, the attacks on refugees and trans folk include direct, frequent assaults, supported on and cheered by the mass media and a large number of celebrities. This is a deeply unfair equivalency to make. In no way am I saying that these things are equivalent and I completely agree that there is no equivalence between the treatment received by refugees & trans folk and the way they Tory government appears too be trying to undermine the devolution settlement. Apart from anything else, governments are better able too defend themselves than opposed minorities. However, that doesn't mean the Tories aren't linking them all up in their attempt to whip up their culture wars nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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