2013 Headliners

[eFestivals]

you said he was sloppy. Not liking him, or the songs he did etc is subjective and just opinion. The fact that he wasn't sloppy isn't open to opinion. You might as well say it was raining all weekend, because that's how it seemed to you.

sloppy - as in "not tight". What I saw was not tight.

If you think different then the difference in our opinions is our subjective difference of opinion of what is tight.

Sloppy or not is opinion. It can't be anything else.

[Englishdragon]

I cant help thinking we had this argument 100 pages ago

[ghandi]

i don't care if he was " sloppy", i was already pissed, sounded fine to me

[Guest]

sloppy - as in "not tight". What I saw was not tight.

If you think different then the difference in our opinions is our subjective difference of opinion of what is tight.

Sloppy or not is opinion. It can't be anything else.

[GuitarManDan15]

Springsteen is one of the most boring acts I've ever had the displeasure to sit though. He's live show is a steaming pile of horse crap! And not only is he as dull as a train spotter I hate the over-enthusiastic 'MERICA!!!!!' shit that goes with he's show. I went to IOW and I wanted to see Ash and the darkness but was determined to see half hour of bruce. Me and my friends struggled to stick it out till half hour, I was counting down the seconds over the last few minutes. One of my mates was chatting about Bruce all weekend and how he couldn't wait to see him and left before we did! Truly terrible performer!

[MEGABOWL]

Would be such a laugh on here if they booked Springsteen again. He's only over the other side of the channel on the Saturday remember.

[eFestivals]

do you think playing the right notes at the right time is a matter of opinion?

nope. But I do think that what-is-the-right-time could well be.

The fact remains: I've heard plenty of tighter bands over the years.

No matter what you say, that opinion of mine remains the same, and there's no fact you can present to change it.

[Guest]

nope. But I do think that what-is-the-right-time could well be.

The fact remains: I've heard plenty of tighter bands over the years.

No matter what you say, that opinion of mine remains the same, and there's no fact you can present to change it.

Edited January 25, 2013 by tonyblair

[Zero_Newnab]

Heard some rumblings that Daft Punk were going to do Coachella, then decided they wanted to do a reunion/comeback kinda thing in France before playing anywhere else this year. Coachella is in April, so... Potentially a world tour starting in France after April coming from them? A tour that might include a Glastonbury slot?

*grasps all the straws he can find*

[eFestivals]

what do you mean "what is the right time"? you think you know more than the musicians when the right time is?

From a personal enjoyment perspective, yes.

There's bands where (say) the drummer is that split-second before the rest of the band and there's those where he's that split-second after, which helps define the sound of that band. There is no definitive 'right', it's how that musician feels its right. Someone listening might feel it's wrong, because that choice of that drummer doesn't create a feel that that listener likes. The first job of the drummer is to give a consistent beat, but there's no requirement with that that everyone in the band is 100% on the same moment with that drummer's beat (and it doesn't ever happen, that level of perfection does not exist in any band outside of the synthesised).

If a person doesn't enjoy the 'disconnect make-up' of that particular set of musicians then he's perfectly entitled to think those musicians have got it wrong, just by the fact it doesn't work for him.

But I don't think any of this is particularly relevant for my SW opinion. The band simply wasn't that tight for what I heard of the set; I've heard plenty tighter.

[eFestivals]

Heard some rumblings that Daft Punk were going to do Coachella, then decided they wanted to do a reunion/comeback kinda thing in France before playing anywhere else this year. Coachella is in April, so... Potentially a world tour starting in France after April coming from them? A tour that might include a Glastonbury slot?

*grasps all the straws he can find*

it's straws. They were never doing Coachella.

There might be some other straws to clutch soonish tho. More when it's available.

[CaledonianGonzo]

And not only is he as dull as a train spotter I hate the over-enthusiastic 'MERICA!!!!!' shit that goes with he's show.[/quoute

As someone of a pretty strident anti-imperialist bent, I find Springsteen's shows to feature about 0% mindless flag-waving. If anything, it's the opposite. He's even got Tom Morello as a semi-permanent member of The E Street band.

Neil Diamond, on the other hand.....

[The Nal]

I was in the "Stevie can't pull it off" camp before he played.

About 5 minutes in I realised I was spectacularly wrong. His band are utterly incredible. One of the best I've seen.

From 8 mins 50. Doesn't get any tighter.

[CaledonianGonzo]

There were a few noodly areas in Stevie's set that could perhaps have been edited out, e.g. his keytar solo at the start, but I'd call them 'cheesy' rather than 'sloppy'.

On the whole, though, it was incredible.

[Guest]

I was in the "Stevie can't pull it off" camp before he played.

About 5 minutes in I realised I was spectacularly wrong. His band are utterly incredible. One of the best I've seen.

From 8 mins 50. Doesn't get any tighter.

[01seb]

Man I wish Biffy Clyro weren't booked for what is probably a UK exclusive headline spot at R&L.

New albums are brilliant, they've worked their way up the Glasto bill and would be a genuinely deserving headliner, always put on a fantastic show and would be a great choice by the Eavis' for the Friday night upcoming headliner spot.

[Guest]

There were a few noodly areas in Stevie's set that could perhaps have been edited out, e.g. his keytar solo at the start, but I'd call them 'cheesy' rather than 'sloppy'.

On the whole, though, it was incredible.

[eFestivals]

I'm intrigued to see or hear an example of their sloppiness.

One of the things neither of us have touched on around this, and what it could be down to, is where we were stood in the field and how that was effected by the sound set-up.

It's possibly that, I dunno. The fact remains that it didn't sound tight to me.

[MEGABOWL]

Man I wish Biffy Clyro weren't booked for what is probably a UK exclusive headline spot at R&L.

New albums are brilliant, they've worked their way up the Glasto bill and would be a genuinely deserving headliner, always put on a fantastic show and would be a great choice by the Eavis' for the Friday night upcoming headliner spot.

[Guest]

One of the things neither of us have touched on around this, and what it could be down to, is where we were stood in the field and how that was effected by the sound set-up.

It's possibly that, I dunno. The fact remains that it didn't sound tight to me.

Edited January 25, 2013 by tonyblair

[01seb]

The what? Oh, the chance to follow in the footsteps of 'upcoming' acts Neil Young and U2.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

I've been in front of the pyramid where the sound can be a nightmare. Do they still try and do that thing with the speakers further back, where they attempt to simulate the real delay from the pa on the stage? So that - in theory - if you're standing near the second lot of speakers, the sound you're hearing from those speakers has a delay to match the natural delay...? (if you get my meaning). That only works in certain 'sweet' spots. I remember wandering around when REM were on, and in some places there was an unlistenable 'echo', but if you walked a few feet either way, the echo disappeared. It's one of the main reasons I like to get a good spot for someone I like, it's as much about the sound as being able to see

[MEGABOWL]

I've been in front of the pyramid where the sound can be a nightmare. Do they still try and do that thing with the speakers further back, where they attempt to simulate the real delay from the pa on the stage? So that - in theory - if you're standing near the second lot of speakers, the sound you're hearing from those speakers has a delay to match the natural delay...? (if you get my meaning). That only works in certain 'sweet' spots. I remember wandering around when REM were on, and in some places there was an unlistenable 'echo', but if you walked a few feet either way, the echo disappeared. It's one of the main reasons I like to get a good spot for someone I like, it's as much about the sound as being able to see

[MEGABOWL]

True, I'm tired and forgot about that. Put them in the 'upcoming headliner on any night that will do' slot then haha

[russycarps]

So wheres the best spots then soundwise?