UK Politics

[steviewevie]

48 minutes ago, Neil said:

Shitloads to do better if their hands aren't tied with green stuff.

Is the choice poverty or climate change?

[Guest]

Football bringing people together. 

[steviewevie]

What Labour are going to have to do is find a load of money..which will probably have to come from taxes...so wouldn't be surprised if early in first term they say some bullshit like they didn't realise things were so bad and are going to have to put up taxes sorry everyone....do it early, get the painful stuff out of the way. A large majority would help.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

Football bringing people together. 

Reform voters

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Is the choice poverty or climate change?

with limited resources there's always a choice.

[Neil]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

What Labour are going to have to do is find a load of money..which will probably have to come from taxes...so wouldn't be surprised if early in first term they say some bullshit like they didn't realise things were so bad and are going to have to put up taxes sorry everyone....do it early, get the painful stuff out of the way. A large majority would help.

they might find some coins down the back of the sofa, but they won't find £26bn there!

[steviewevie]

49 minutes ago, Neil said:

they might find some coins down the back of the sofa, but they won't find £26bn there!

It was 28bn...and that was an extra borrowing figure that would be invested, and on grand scheme of things isn't that much...but it's gone now, can't talk about it...shhh...

[Neil]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It was 28bn...and that was an extra borrowing figure that would be invested, and on grand scheme of things isn't that much...but it's gone now, can't talk about it...shhh...

I couldn't remember if it was 26 or 28.

I went with the smaller number as it would be less to find. There isn't the room to borrow it at the moment. Could sort out councils with that borrowing.

[steviewevie]

21 minutes ago, Neil said:

I couldn't remember if it was 26 or 28.

I went with the smaller number as it would be less to find. There isn't the room to borrow it at the moment. Could sort out councils with that borrowing.

Borrow 28bn per year to pay for councils? 🤔

[Neil]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Borrow 28bn per year to pay for councils? 🤔

don't think it'll do it, they've got 25 years of underfunding to cover.

[Neil]

51 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

It needs loads to sort adult social care

that's a councils cost not an NHS cost, cos adult social care is a statutory duty of local councils. its one of the reasons i keep banging on about sorting council finances.

Edited February 25, 2024 by Neil

[Neil]

49 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

t needs loads to change how we all do things to combat the realities of climate change - or it will cost lots more**

don't have to worry about rivers flooding when so much of the country will be flooded by the sea.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Whatever money is spent on in future there really is one unescapable fact.

Unless more is paid in tax then less can be done.

The UK needs lots to bring NHS up to date not just on staff but with equipment.
It needs loads to sort adult social care
It needs loads to bring councils up to date with funding
It needs loads to change how we all do things to combat the realities of climate change - or it will cost lots more**

In short how everything is needs to change or the future might be very bleak indeed for many.

With the main 2 parties trying to not change much at all then that bleak future is heading our way as so many think a little change going Blue to Red will sort it all - which it won't.

Solution - unless we either all vote for  a new party (and I don't mean Green cos I like them) any new party will do then nothing is go9ng to change quick enough. Even Reform coming in, ignoring Net Zero but giving us PR would speed things up (disclaimer I hate Reform and hope they rot in Hell's own Hell).
Apart from that cicil revolution is about all I can think of - and we are too feeble now to do it.




**Incomplete figures show 2023 cost 4 times more than any previous year in clear up after floods, winds etc than any previous year (source ONS)

Ok, voting Reform

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

Probably not new news but I've just seen on local TV news that they want to knock down the oasis in Swindon. I can see Liam to the rescue sometime soon.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Neil said:

they might find some coins down the back of the sofa, but they won't find £26bn there!

Maybe Angela Rainer can donate the £45k she made from selling her council house she bought for a song under the 'Right to Buy' scheme. 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Ommadawn said:

Maybe Angela Rainer can donate the £45k she made from selling her council house she bought for a song under the 'Right to Buy' scheme. 

If there's a problem with her doing what anyone in the same circumstances could do, the problem is not her doing but the thing which people are permitted to do.

if labour ended right to buy they'd have youngsters complaining that labour had moved house buying further from them. but first they'd have to get social housing.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

If SNP get a chance for another go at their ceasefire motion by then Galloway should be back in parliament doing his thing. 🎆

[steviewevie]

Sunak now saying Anderson was suspended because of his comments, not that he didn't apologise.

[fraybentos1]

Delighted to see Anderson suspended. An odious man and terrible MP. He’d have been booted out at the election anyway I imagine 

[steviewevie]

Toriy party's islamophobia mirroring the Labour party's antisemitism from a few years ago.

[lost]

I’ve noticed on Twitter bald and bankrupt latest video on the poorest parts of the U.K. seems to blowing up. Throughly depressing that our political class are more interested in fighting culture wars over Israel Palestinian than focusing on the issues here. You can see why turnout is so low.

[kaosmark2]

Meanwhile, in stopped clock moments:

 

[fraybentos1]

51 minutes ago, lost said:

I’ve noticed on Twitter bald and bankrupt latest video on the poorest parts of the U.K. seems to blowing up. Throughly depressing that our political class are more interested in fighting culture wars over Israel Palestinian than focusing on the issues here. You can see why turnout is so low.

It does focus on the 1% of worst places though. Every country has total sh*t holes. Most of the country is not like what he showed, although it did illustrate a point well.