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U.S. Presidential Election


FloorFiller

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15 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Washington Post and LA Times not endorsing anyone is a major wtf but I guess they can see what is coming...

Billionaire owners not wanting to be on the wrong side of the guy who’ll be handing out tax cuts to his rich friends if he takes office.

 

 

Still think Kamala is gonna trounce him tbh. There’s currently a talking point on Twitter that he might even win the popular vote which just seems so unlikely to me. The media really needs this to be a nail biter but I’m not buying it. Best case scenario is this is all over on election night with a definitive win, but if not it’s gonna be a tense few days leading in to the weekend until the winner is decided and a lot of dirty tricks from Trump.

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5 hours ago, FloopFiller said:

Billionaire owners not wanting to be on the wrong side of the guy who’ll be handing out tax cuts to his rich friends if he takes office.

 

 

Still think Kamala is gonna trounce him tbh. There’s currently a talking point on Twitter that he might even win the popular vote which just seems so unlikely to me. The media really needs this to be a nail biter but I’m not buying it. Best case scenario is this is all over on election night with a definitive win, but if not it’s gonna be a tense few days leading in to the weekend until the winner is decided and a lot of dirty tricks from Trump.

I am a lot more pessimistic than you...I have low trust in my fellow human beings. Pray you're right.

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13 minutes ago, ian the worm said:

Do I need to plan an all nighter next Tuesday? Or will the UK time difference and counting timescale mean that everything is covered through Wednesday?  When will we likely know the main result?

I don't think will know which way it is going to at least wednesday evening, and may not know final result until the weekend or even longer if the polls are right and it's going to be that close.

I'm not staying up all night for it, especially as I think it's going to be grim.

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3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I don't think will know which way it is going to at least wednesday evening, and may not know final result until the weekend or even longer if the polls are right and it's going to be that close.

I'm not staying up all night for it, especially as I think it's going to be grim.

Agreed. After the problems in 2000 and the 'issues' in 2020, I think states will take a bit more time before certifying.

 

I'm beginning to think the polls are a little screwy tbh. Most observers have said Trump would almost certainly lose the pop vote, even if he wins the election, yet the polls often say otherwise. And the polls never seem to react to actual news about the campaigns, such as the shooting, VP choices, debates etc. Taking 538 for example, I bet they get far more web hits when the results are v close so can understand them putting their finger on the scale to maintain that.

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3 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Agreed. After the problems in 2000 and the 'issues' in 2020, I think states will take a bit more time before certifying.

 

I'm beginning to think the polls are a little screwy tbh. Most observers have said Trump would almost certainly lose the pop vote, even if he wins the election, yet the polls often say otherwise. And the polls never seem to react to actual news about the campaigns, such as the shooting, VP choices, debates etc. Taking 538 for example, I bet they get far more web hits when the results are v close so can understand them putting their finger on the scale to maintain that.

There is a thinking that polls are over doing the adjustment for the shy Trump voter following 2016/2020...and that Republican tactic is to have a lot of polls and betting sites showing it to be very close or a Trump win so they can say obviously dodge when Trump loses. Not convinced myself, but we'll see. A counter to this method is it could generate a larger turnout for Harris for fear of Trump winning.

I still think he'll win, he is the news, Harris doesn't get a look in.

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This may be behind a paywall...but basically he has looked at where they're going on campaign trail and Harris is being defensive and going to more safe Democrat counties than marginal ones, and Trump is going to more marginal and Democrat ones...so thinking is that they think/know polls are underestimating Trump support.

Are the polls underestimating Trump? - New Statesman

 

Be afraid.

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I’m of the total opposite opinion - that the polls are doing a course correction and overestimating him this time around after severely underestimating him the previous two election cycles. Hilary was predicted to win in a landslide and Biden was predicted to have a bigger victory, so they’re accounting for that by giving him a bump this time around and making it a level race so that no matter the outcome, they won’t come out being totally wrong.

 

As for him doing more rallies in places he’s unlikely to win, that’s just Trump being Trump, and if anything is just a farewell tour before he has to stop doing the thing that he loves most of all in all of this - talking to crowds of adoring fans. 

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