General Election 2015

[eFestivals]

" People of Scotland - vote YES and set us English free "

" Instead of condemning us to perpetual Tory rule, independence may reinvigorate Labour and bring us the devolution we crave."

According to that well known snipster a wee while back.................Billy Bragg.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/23/scotland-vote-yes-set-english-free-independence-devolution

Billy Bragg is an English nationalist? Who knew.

Meanwhile, back in the early days of the SNP's rise, what was it that drove people to support the SNP?

Now they're all in favour of the nasty English nationalism that people joined the SNP in disgust about.

I've got yo-yos with greater intellectual stability.

[eFestivals]

" Significantly poorer ".....relative to who / where ?

relative to the levels of prosperity you have now.

When the SNP are calling a self-funded Scotland "suicide" you should kn0ow you're deeply in the shit.

Or just take a look at GERS?

FFS. Youi can't reject reality in the same way you reject the facts.

[eFestivals]

Russy mate, I think you need to think quite a lot of this through. Public spending being cut / slashed you say..........

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/03/autumn-statement-2014-george-osborne-spending-cuts

As intelligent as you pointing out the UK's debts.

Just because something is shit within the UK doesn't get to mean that iScotland automatically get to do it better.

Cos if that's true, you're claiming Scotland and people in Scotland as exceptional people.

Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why Scotland would out-perform all other mature economies, as Sturgeon claims it would?

[eFestivals]

Gotta love them Neil

Chill out & enjoy the fun.

The daily mail doesn't like it. Neil doesn't like it. There's a nice alliance.

You just love to roll in shit, don't you?

[eFestivals]

I want out of this ghastly union.

You want austerity-max.

[eFestivals]

Oh look Nigel farage is on question time. What a shock.

Edit: in fact the whole QT panel is an argument to get out of the UK.

Tory , Tory journalist, worse than TorY, guitarist with shit hair & the poshest Labour mp they could find.

I'm a democrat , get me out of here.

You're such a democrat, you can't accept the democratic self-determination of the people of Scotland, nor the democratic self-determination of the people of UK.

That's how much of a democrat you are.

Edited May 15, 2015 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

Why a lurch to the right is not the answer for Labour...

so show us all the majority of the left to prove your take right.

<silence>

[neil999]

thought tristham hunt was quite good on question time last night, seems weird for him to be labour leader tho!

[eFestivals]

thought tristham hunt was quite good on question time last night, seems weird for him to be labour leader tho!

Tristam Hunt, a rhyming slang man. He's actually Mandleson's man.

And Kendall is Blair's woman.

And Mrs Balls is Mr Balls' woman.

And Burnham is a right wing c**t pretending to be something else.

And Chukka is just a right wing c**t.

I'm so very pleased that the tories now have no realistic opposition and all that's left for the UK is nationalist politics which will make everything so much better.

Edited May 15, 2015 by eFestivals

[neil999]

Tristam Hunt, a rhyming slang man. He's actually Mandleson's man.

And Kendall is Blair's woman.

And Mrs Balls is Mr Balls' woman.

And Burnham is a right wing c**t pretending to be something else.

And Chukka is just a right wing c**t.

I'm so very pleased that the tories now have no realistic opposition and all that's left for the UK is nationalist politics which will make everything so much better.

i thought chukka was mandelsons man!

oh dear its not great is it, i think he did well in recognising rightly or wrongly that labour did not leave enough money to deal with a possible deficit, they have clearly lost the argument on that one so now just have to say they got things slightly wrong and they have have learned from it

sigh...its all a big game is it not

[neil999]

chukkas dropped out!

[eFestivals]

I've just heard the BBC report that the SNP got a bigger share of the vote (which was just under 50%) than any party in Scotland's history.

Which is utter bull.

Next up, the claims that SNP got a majority of the Holyrood vote, when it hasn't.

Closely followed by "scotland's future is for the peopole to decide" and yet there's no party offering the devo-max option which is what most of Scotland wants.

Edited May 15, 2015 by eFestivals

[5co77ie]

chukkas dropped out!

that means he wants to run as deputy to someone Yvette - I reckon - that has win win all over it

[Rose-Colored Boy]

Yeah just read that. I think that is a real shame.

The rumours over why he's quit would make it more than a shame if true. It's 2015 ffs

[eFestivals]

that means he wants to run as deputy to someone Yvette - I reckon - that has win win all over it

you mean lose-lose.

Mrs Balls is a no-hoper.

[kaosmark2]

Mrs Balls is a no-hoper.

And yet she's still a better option than Burnham.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

Tristam Hunt, a rhyming slang man. He's actually Mandleson's man.

And Kendall is Blair's woman.

And Mrs Balls is Mr Balls' woman.

And Burnham is a right wing c**t pretending to be something else.

And Chukka is just a right wing c**t.

I'm so very pleased that the tories now have no realistic opposition and all that's left for the UK is nationalist politics which will make everything so much better.

Mary Creagh?

[LJS]

I've just heard the BBC report that the SNP got a bigger share of the vote (which was just under 50%) than any party in Scotland's history.

Which is utter bull.

Next up, the claims that SNP got a majority of the Holyrood vote, when it hasn't.

Closely followed by "scotland's future is for the peopole to decide" and yet there's no party offering the devo-max option which is what most of Scotland wants.

I think utter bull is overstating it. You have to go back to 1910 for a clear higher %. You can spin interpret another couple of elections as higher depending how you define conservative. They'd have been better going for the past 50 years.

[eFestivals]

I think utter bull is overstating it. You have to go back to 1910 for a clear higher %. You can spin interpret another couple of elections as higher depending how you define conservative. They'd have been better going for the past 50 years.

is the beeb's claim right or wrong? It's wriong, and therefore utter bull.

As ever, a snipper just can't accept the indisputable fact.

[eFestivals]

And yet she's still a better option than Burnham.

'better option' as in electable? I doubt it.

The papers would just run story after story about who came along with her.

[LJS]

is the beeb's claim right or wrong? It's wriong, and therefore utter bull.

As ever, a snipper just can't accept the indisputable fact.

The beeb's claim is wrong.

Is it utter bull? If it is ,your repeated claim that the Snp got 49% of the vote is utter bull.

Edited May 15, 2015 by LJS

[kaosmark2]

'better option' as in electable? I doubt it.

The papers would just run story after story about who came along with her.

As in political stance and sense.

I think she wouldn't actually just be Balls' puppet, but whether the electorate would believe that is an entirely different issue,.

[5co77ie]

you mean lose-lose.

Mrs Balls is a no-hoper.

fiver on her taking the leadership

[pink_triangle]

I wonder if chuckha thinks the leadership may be a better job to take in 5 years time.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

I wonder if chuckha thinks the leadership may be a better job to take in 5 years time.

Thats supposedly Dan Jarvis' reasoning. They can't both have it in five years time!