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lharris92

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Decent mania.

Seems they're really putting emphasis back on the IC belt with the segment after the match.

The HHH/Sting match was a gimmick match basically. Fun but complete nonsense. HHH coming out later and seeming completely fine didn't do anyone any favours. He could've at least feigned sore ribs or something!

Presume they're building up a Rock vs HHH feud and Ronda dipping the toe in the water for a WWE run. Now that shes basically out of people to beat up in UFC.

Cena vs Rusev was decent but I had nothing invested in it.

Taker has now wrestled father and son at major PPVs. He looked better than I expected and put in a much better performance than his last few WMs. He looked much older last year. One more run?

Main event was great. If a little predictable. Rollins was always going to cash in at WM. Reigns did great and the match will have helped him a lot.

And who said they don't like blood?! More blood and bumps like Ambroses please!

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The blood I agree with, its nice to bring it out every now and again. I don't care what anyone says, when it is used properly, it enhances the story of the match ten fold. Especially when its a physical encounter like last night.

Bumps like Ambrose I can't agree with. Although it looked really cool and the kid inside me loved it as it reminded me of the 'good old days', my more mature head instantly realised that it was extremely dangerous and painful. I know they're wrestlers, but being dumped on the back of your head onto metal isn't something that they should be doing.

Anyhow, any ideas for the Rollins fall out tonight on RAW? Reigns turning heel to join The Authority and them all turning on Seth now he's won the title (like Evolution did to Randy) would be a cool road to go down imo.

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The real success of the blood was that it also allowed people to TRULY believe Reigns had it. The blood was there to weaken Lesnar to the point that we could believe one man can beat him. And that was also key to the cash in from Rollins. Because it made that less likely to happen as well. When it seemed to be all over, we got another big nearfall and then Brock came back yet again. Drama, excitement and everything. And THEN Rollins made the appearance, to tip the whole thing over the edge.

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but being dumped on the back of your head onto metal isn't something that they should be doing.

They're made of fibreglass and the ones used for big bumps are pre cut too. It would hurt, but not nearly as much as it looked last night.

Anyhow, any ideas for the Rollins fall out tonight on RAW? Reigns turning heel to join The Authority and them all turning on Seth now he's won the title (like Evolution did to Randy) would be a cool road to go down imo.

Remember its holiday season now so a few of them might be off for a couple of weeks. Rollins may just do a victory speech and bad mouth Lesnar and Reigns? Rollins flew to NYC to do the Today show straight after WM and is flying back to San Jose for Raw.

We'll see Sheamus back tonight, presumably to feud with Bryan. Or is that for Ziggler?

And we may see a NXT debut(s)?

Brock scheduled to be there too.

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That was definitely a great show, from start to finish it had top moments with a few slower less memorable ones thrown in to avoid too much burnout. The ladder match to kick the show off was good, had anything you can expect from a modern day ladder match including someone having to spin round with the ladder round their neck. One day that will get old :P

Orton Rollin was a good match, I think it could have been better if they threw a No DQ stip in there as well to really finish off the feud, unless WWE are wanting Orton to challenge for the title now and maybe have an extreme rules match or whatever. Good new set up for the RKO, with moves like that and the AA, its the same set ups all the time so it was good to see something a bit new.

Cena Rusev was fairly good, Cena looked happy at winning the US title same as Bryan looked happy with the IC title. Hope they both carry on a good attitude towards having a less-than-top title, and it will elevate the titles even more.

As said earlier by everyone else the Sting HHH match was pretty sub par, and I think the stipulation should have been announced and worked up over the past few shows, not just announced before the match.

As for the main event, it had me drawn in from Lesnar's entrance. Heyman doing the introduction was a good touch, and the fast start to the match was good, didnt give the crowd any time to make anti-reigns chants. I think from Lesnars UFC time, he carrys a lot of scar tissue so will bleed a bit easier than the fresher faced people. The ring post blood spot was good, made it more believable that Reigns could get the win after Lesnar looked dominant. Up until Rollins came out I wasnt expecting a cash in that night. I know people had talked about it in the past, but the counter argument that the hardcore mania fans want to know what their main event is seemed good enough to not really consider it happening. I think the three of them should have had a bit more of a war, Lesnar took one curb stomp and recovered to nearly pull off a F5, then a spear which he shook off earlier, but then was out of it. Yeah having Reigns lose the pinfall was good so Lesnar didnt need to be pinned, but I just think to be more believable Lesnar would have stayed in the ring and carried on after 1 spear. Rollins curb stopping Reigns and the reaction of Rollins was priceless though. I agree that he looked thrilled to have the chance to be world champion. It opens up storylines which can happen now, but it seems like that was the plan all along regardless of Lesnar resigning. I thought Lesnar resigning would have meant he had more of a say in his creative or only dropped the title to Reigns. Rollins is the future of the company and the face of the company if Reigns cant live up to Vince's expectations.

All in all the ending was great, Im expecting to see Lesnar and Heyman cut a promo against the Authority to turn Face and say the Authority screwed Lesnar out of the title, but I dont know where that would leave Reigns. Id guess that as soon as anyone defends against Lesnar, Lesnar is getting the title back, so maybe WWE would try give Lesnar a different storyline for when he comes back and keep him out of the title picture for now.

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Blood when used well is welcome, when Flair juiced at Mania 8 v Savage it added to the match, Lesnar bleeding last night added to the match and like said made it believable Reigns could win.

I agree though the Ambrose bump was stupid, it didn't get anyone over, it was just reckless and pointless and could have seriously ended his career.

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If Rusev won it would've been near perfect for me. I love the guy, I think he's really funny.

I never thought I'd see Seth Rollins walking out of Wrestlemania champion, genius as well, Brock doesn't get pinned and Roman looked incredibly strong.

I've always been a Roman basher and I'm still glad he didn't walk out as champ last night but he really impressed me. I think the hard hits and brutality was definitely the best way to go about it with these two, was in danger of becoming a terrible wrestling match but it was really entertaining. That sequence with all the punches from Roman and Brock stumbling around was just fantastic television. (Oh yeah and, after last night - Brock is the fucking man.)

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Everyone I watched with seemed convinced the next PPV would see a fatal 4 way with Orton,Reigns,Lesnar and Rollins for the title.

I can see an arguement for Orton being involved as he just beat Rollins, but I think Orton needs to stay away from the title picture.

HHH may have Lesnar and or Reigns go through the Authority one by one now to get to Rollins.

Surely Rollins will get an easy opponent at Extreme Rules, that he can go over?

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I dont think The Authority should beat down Lesnar, and I dont think they will turn on Rollins now he is champion like the evolution storyline. HHH turned on Randy back then because he wanted to be champion, but HHH isnt even bothering to try have another title run. Of course he could book himself into one, but he isnt going down that path and I dont think he should. I think Rollins will get a party of some sort thrown by the Authority, only to be craashed by Lesnar or Orton or Reigns. A fatal 4 way would be good, but I dont see it happening at the next PPV.

HHH may have Lesnar and or Reigns go through the Authority one by one now to get to Rollins.

Surely Rollins will get an easy opponent at Extreme Rules, that he can go over?

I dont think Lesnar would do enough Raw shows to go threw the authority and make it worth while. As for Reigns, he already has gone threw the Authority. As for Rollins at Extreme Rules, I dont think he will just get an easy opponent because who is there which is easy but still deserving one PPV after Mania and his title win. Either Lesnar will want an immediate rematch due to him not 'losing' the title, or Reigns will want a shot at Rollins for ruining his shot at the title on the biggest stage of them all

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Regarding some of the complaints, The Rock/Rousey promo did go on too long, but I'm almost certain that had something to do with wanting it to be as dark as possible for the Taker/Bray match.

And regarding Ambrose, he needed to take a big bump to excuse him from stopping Rollins from cashing in. Talk of a big push for Ambrose coming up, so I imagine he could be put in the title picture.

Overall though, thoroughly enjoyed Mania. Even if HHH did look like Lord Zedd from Power Rangers in that terminator get up.

Another plus was the no show from Sheamus! Long may he continue to no show...

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I dont think the entrances would have been much better even if the Taker match went on last, it just wasnt dark enough for it to look as effective as when its indoors and the lights go out. The rock/rousey promo was good and entertaining though. Not sure if people are reading too much into Rousey having a small part in ring, as I think her heart is in MMA and I arent sure she would want to leave the UFC to go to WWE. All she would have to do in WWE is take any diva down to the ground and armbar them and win every divas match as it is the reality era.

Having seen both matches, im glad the Taker match didnt go on as main event, dont think it lived up to any hype it had. The main event and cash in was a great way to end mania. Sheamus was defo here over the weekend so im surprised he didnt turn up. Heel turn and challenge Cena or Bryan is what youd guess at, but we will have to see

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Some predictions for RAW:

Sheamus to come out and kick Bryan's head off.

Sting and The Undertaker set up.

Adrian Neville or Finn Balor to debut, along with Charlotte.

Reigns to turn heel.

Rollins title celebration to get crashed by Randy.

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Some predictions for RAW:

Sheamus to come out and kick Bryan's head off. Agree with

Sting and The Undertaker set up. Taker looked past it, dont know if id want to see him a year later. Quit while he is ahead

Adrian Neville or Finn Balor to debut, along with Charlotte. Probably, maybe someone could challenge Cena, a close match could put someone over quite well

Reigns to turn heel. I cant see it tbh, Reigns to stay face and fight to get Rollins 1 on 1

Rollins title celebration to get crashed by Randy. Yeah or Brock by smashing the place up

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Very good start, Sheamus looks badass.

Lesnar vs Rollins main event for title, I was just saying a couple of pages back that we never get world title matches on raw anymore so happy with that if it goes down.

edit: that segment was insane, Lesnar rules.

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I was a day late watching. My observations

Tag match - It was fun and ok. i think i would have preferred Usos v Cesaro/Kidd as the others do nothing for me. I like the latter, but find their moveset sometimes confusing from a heel perspectve. That Cesaro swing is a pure babyface move and he should find something else to showcase his strength.

Battle Royal - Glad to see the giant winning for a change. As its silly to always build them as a threat if they never win.

IC match - Glad that Bryan won, as it will ge tthe title over. I think you need less numbers to get people over. I would have gone for Barrett v Bryan v ziggler.

Sting v HHH - Loved the old school start, didnt enjoy the overbooked ending. Found the alleginaces of Dx/NWO a little confusing. I thought from the commentary it was obvious HHH would win as they wouldnt let wcw beat wwe. If Stings only match, a bif of a let down.

Orton V Rollins - Good match, loved the finish.

Womans match - Good, but too short. Would have preferred AJ, Paige, Nicky triple threat

US title match - Fine, but not as good as their last one. rusev getting better all the time

Undertaker v Bray - Think in the minority but enjoyed this. Think Bray showed a lot of personlaity in this feud, but right person won.

Authority segment - Too long, I dont follow UFC so dont know much about Rousey. Hope they can use it to build up a female wrestler and not just Stephanie. Rock/Rousey v HHH/Charlotte could be an interesitng idea.

Lesnar V Reigns - Brock just lighta up any match he is in, while Reigns held up his end. best match, but I would have preferred clean Brock win. As I said earlier Im not a fan of the MITB gimmick and think (but hope Im proven wrong) that its a bit early for Rollins.

Overall entertaining show. From a peronal perspective I would have liked some more pre match interviews. I also feel theres way too much kicking out of peoples finishes, when its done every match it loses its value.

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Too right. I hope he isn't away until Summerslam time. Be cool if he showed up at Extreme Rules, through just destroying all involved in the title match, making it a no contest.

Thats all people want! It reminds me of the early Austin heel/face days. Always breaks up the formula.

Huge week for WWE. WM went down well in the general media, the IC division has been relaunched and RAW was great. Hope they can keep the momentum.

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