Films

[Ted Dansons Wig]

Just to remind/ point out (and to steer the conversation up a notch)

The Departed is on More 4 at 9 tonight.

A masterpiece

[jump]

Just to remind/ point out (and to steer the conversation up a notch)

The Departed is on More 4 at 9 tonight.

A masterpiece

The Departed never clicked with me, it doesn't do it's own thing enough if you've already seen Internal Affairs imo.

[metallimuse]

Great film.Really don't understand how Di Caprio hasn't won an Oscar yet.

[The Nal]

The Departed never clicked with me, it doesn't do it's own thing enough if you've already seen Internal Affairs imo.

Agree yeah. Marty in 3rd gear. Still a good movie though. Edited December 29, 2014 by The Nal

[FloorFiller]

Great film.Really don't understand how Di Caprio hasn't won an Oscar yet.

he always seems to get nominated the same year that another actor has given the performance of their lifetime. just bad luck really. had he done the same roles in different years, he might well've won them all

[whisty]

Great film.Really don't understand how Di Caprio hasn't won an Oscar yet.

Seems like he overacts to me.

[metallimuse]

Seems like he overacts to me.

Magnetic screen presence I've always felt.Can't remember the last bad film he made.I've never seen The Beach mind.Oh wait,actually, Titanic was fucking woeful.Mind,wasn't it a big Oscar winner?

[dentalplan]

Great Gatsby last year was quite bad.

He's very good and maybe would have won an Oscar for Aviator in another year or J. Edgar if the film wasn't a dud but I don't really see it as an injustice for him not to have won already. Better actors of his era haven't got one either.

[jump]

Great Gatsby last year was quite bad.

He's very good and maybe would have won an Oscar for Aviator in another year or J. Edgar if the film wasn't a dud but I don't really see it as an injustice for him not to have won already. Better actors of his era haven't got one either.

Tbh a greater "injustice" was Scorsese taking 30 years to win an Oscar and it wasn't even for Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Age Of Innocence, Goodfellas, Last Temptation Of Christ or Casino but a carbon copy remake*.

*This isn't me saying The Departed is bad by the way but apart from having Boston accents it offers nothing over the original.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

Tbh a greater "injustice" was Scorsese taking 30 years to win an Oscar and it wasn't even for Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Age Of Innocence, Goodfellas, Last Temptation Of Christ or Casino but a carbon copy remake*.

*This isn't me saying The Departed is bad by the way but apart from having Boston accents it offers nothing over the original.

Doesn't it offer Jack Nicholson in the last role where he gave a semblance of giving a fuck?

[jump]

Doesn't it offer Jack Nicholson in the last role where he gave a semblance of giving a fuck?

I thought he was decent in Bucket List and he even went to the effort of shaving his head for it.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

And to be a dreadful pedant ... I thought it was inFernal Affairs (not inTernal).

[FloorFiller]

And to be a dreadful pedant ... I thought it was inFernal Affairs (not inTernal).

hmm i've always thought it was Internal Affairs but it appears you're right! Internal Affairs is a very different film staring Richard Gere

[Ted Dansons Wig]

I thought he was decent in Bucket List and he even went to the effort of shaving his head for it.

Interesting - the very film where imho (head shaving aside) he's the epitome of NOT giving a fuck. He's always decent in that he's always Jack Nicholson I suppose. All opinions of course, might give it a second go - got the DVD lying around somewhere.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

I thought that was the film being discussed and admit I was surprised at the comparisons. Not heard of infernal affairs.

I mentioned it specifically having bought Internal Affairs on recommendation a few years go and wondering what the feck people saw in it. Then found out I'd been watching the wrong movie.

[dentalplan]

Tbh a greater "injustice" was Scorsese taking 30 years to win an Oscar and it wasn't even for Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Age Of Innocence, Goodfellas, Last Temptation Of Christ or Casino but a carbon copy remake*.

*This isn't me saying The Departed is bad by the way but apart from having Boston accents it offers nothing over the original.

Definitely, however the Best Director Oscar is so mired in injustices it's perhaps not worth thinking about, and the writing awards are less significant than he'd deserve anyway.

[jump]

Interesting - the very film where imho (head shaving aside) he's the epitome of NOT giving a fuck. He's always decent in that he's always Jack Nicholson I suppose. All opinions of course, might give it a second go - got the DVD lying around somewhere.

Well Bucket List is soppy and cliche to begin with but he's strangely earnest for Jackie anyway. You can accuse him of not giving a fuck in one of his most iconic roles as the Joker in Batman but it still doesn't take away from the performance, well it does till you see what an actor can do with a role like that when it's taken seriously.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

Well Bucket List is soppy and cliche to begin with but he's strangely earnest for Jackie anyway. You can accuse him of not giving a fuck in one of his most iconic roles as the Joker in Batman but it still doesn't take away from the performance, well it does till you see what an actor can do with a role like that when it's taken seriously.

Yeah you're right.

Given some of tripe Tim Burton throws out when he's given the cash to slap around its amazing there's any structure in his Batman at all.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Worked when I was at uni there.

I'm of the opinion that Full Metal Jacket is probably his best work.

Oh no. I disagree. While I enjoy Full Metal Jacket I think 2001 was his opus. I saw it when I was 6 or 7 at the cinema and I was absolutely blown away.

[bocumaroy]

Best Director is an odd award. I'm not sure how much a director's contribution to a film can be judged just by watching it.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

Best Director is an odd award. I'm not sure how much a director's contribution to a film can be judged just by watching it.

Interesting - whereas I'd take the view that the ONLY way to judge a Directors contribution is by watching it. Not sure I've grasped what you mean

[jump]

Interesting - whereas I'd take the view that the ONLY way to judge a Directors contribution is by watching it. Not sure I've grasped what you mean

I think they are trying to say that film making is a team effort and not the director leading the project.

On a side note my girlfriend is a prop maker and I've heard stories about how apparently Tim Burton doesn't actually do much in terms of set design, directing actor's preformance etc and the people that did Corpse Bride said he did fuck all.

Edited December 30, 2014 by jump

[bocumaroy]

When watching a film I find it simple enough to assess the screenwriting, cinematography, acting, editing, and pretty much everything else. But what makes a good directing performance? I guess an amalgamation of all of those things, as it's their job to oversee and collaborate with each of them, but to me a as a viewer, it's not clear to what extent they've influenced the individual components.

What in a film would you consider an indication of good or bad directing? To me it seems that good directors generally make good films, which makes the award redundant when there's already Best Film.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

When watching a film I find it simple enough to assess the screenwriting, cinematography, acting, editing, and pretty much everything else. But what makes a good directing performance? I guess an amalgamation of all of those things, as it's their job to oversee and collaborate with each of them, but to me a as a viewer, it's not clear to what extent they've influenced the individual components.

What in a film would you consider an indication of good or bad directing? To me it seems that good directors generally make good films, which makes the award redundant when there's already Best Film.

I'd say its to do with the tone and the pacing of the film - although I've always thought that visually a great director has trademarks that come from them rather from say a cinematographer for example (I'm willing to be corrected here - I'm no expert and am not 100% clear where one role ends and the other starts).

A great director for me leaves an imprint on the film - you can always tell its one of theirs. Most obvious examples that spring to mind off the top of my head are Hitchcock and Kurosawa - though as a fan boy of the Coens I'd always claim I can recognise something they've done. What little film criticism I do know also talks about consistent social impact - saying messages/ commentary that repeat across bodies of work. Examples being Eisenstein, Bunuel or French realist cinema. But this is a bit beyond me - I just like watching films.

[jump]

When watching a film I find it simple enough to assess the screenwriting, cinematography, acting, editing, and pretty much everything else. But what makes a good directing performance? I guess an amalgamation of all of those things, as it's their job to oversee and collaborate with each of them, but to me a as a viewer, it's not clear to what extent they've influenced the individual components.

What in a film would you consider an indication of good or bad directing? To me it seems that good directors generally make good films, which makes the award redundant when there's already Best Film.

If that was the case best picture and best director would be the same winners every year, like you said it's a collaboration of all things and seeing how they all gel together rather simply being the best film. For example last year's best flick was 12 Years Of Slave where as best director was the guy that did Gravity, of course this is working on the basis the oscars actually mean fuck all.