Football 2012-2013

[eFestivals]

I would personally never pick a manager because they were a good footballer as there is no evidence to support it.

but the only meaningful evidence is results, which means only existing managers can ever get a job. So how does someone new get a break?

After existing management skills, you have to start scratching around for something which is directly relevant - and so an ex-player is about as good as it could get. He4's at least seen the job from the other side, to know something of what it's about.

[pink_triangle]

I have no problem at all with ex big players starting in the lower leagues to get their experience. I just don't believe they should get big jobs straight away, as it stops career progression of good lower league managers.

[kaosmark2]

Depends what you mean decent? Do you have to take the prem by storm to be a decent manager? Bruce, robson and keane all got promotions to the premier league but are deemed faliures.

This could be the teams previous managers left them or money available.

Could also be that very rich guys in there mid to late 30s dont want to start at the bottom.

[The Nal]

City and Chelski are fucked. Absolutely fucked.

[eFestivals]

City and Chelski are fucked. Absolutely fucked.

if that's the case why did Chelsea vote for the change?

You can be sure that clubs are already seeing the fiddles, no different to how they are with the FFP rules. Just think about how normal tax laws get abused, it won't be anything different going on here.

[hot_ice]

if that's the case why did Chelsea vote for the change?

You can be sure that clubs are already seeing the fiddles, no different to how they are with the FFP rules. Just think about how normal tax laws get abused, it won't be anything different going on here.

[strummer77]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21374699

Now clubs can ONLY make a loss of £105 million

A funny quote I read was....

"I think at £105m you can still build a very decent club with substantial owner funding but you have to do it over time, not in a season."

So it allows the big teams to keep topping up on their already exploited positions but makes it more difficult for other teams to join the club while giving teams who will never be able to join that club to run losses to maintain there position over their in the Championship and beyond.

None of this is about Football getting it finances in order. You don't do that by saying losing £105 million as season is ok Anyone can see thats fucking bonkers

[strummer77]

So the likes of Sunderland will find they have more restrictions over their wage bill than the likes of Manchester United considering the massive difference between how much "extra money" they bring in.

[The Nal]

if that's the case why did Chelsea vote for the change?

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Its finally happened. Rangers have gone mad http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/3317-club-statement

Someone asked if they had David Miscavige as their spokesman!

[LondonTom]

So the likes of Sunderland will find they have more restrictions over their wage bill than the likes of Manchester United considering the massive difference between how much "extra money" they bring in.

Edited February 8, 2013 by LondonTom

[pink_triangle]

What are Citeh going to do? I know a few City fans who are very worried about falling behind and then not being able to catch up.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

I'm all for ABU and all that, but I've just read Man Utd have included a graduate from their youth set up in every game since 1937. That has to be applauded.

[eFestivals]

I'm all for ABU and all that, but I've just read Man Utd have included a graduate from their youth set up in every game since 1937. That has to be applauded.

in every game?

Blimey, that is very impressive if true.

[The Nal]

I'm all for ABU and all that, but I've just read Man Utd have included a graduate from their youth set up in every game since 1937. That has to be applauded.

[pink_triangle]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21372441

An example of a completely pointless statisitcal table from which it is impossible to draw any conclusions!

[The Nal]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21372441

An example of a completely pointless statisitcal table from which it is impossible to draw any conclusions!

[strummer77]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21372441

An example of a completely pointless statisitcal table from which it is impossible to draw any conclusions!

[pink_triangle]

What I get from that is that Eddie Howe should be managing Real Madrid.

[LondonTom]

Shows Big Sam "respecting" the point.....but does seem a bloody pointless table to draw up...

Reading the comments:

Jesus the Teddy Bear

3 Hours ago

51st for the man who invented the passing game, what a joke!

Edited February 8, 2013 by LondonTom

[thetime]

I wonder if utd will rest a load of players tomorrow or go for the kill.

[pink_triangle]

I always like to see a comical own goal, so Barry has given me a bit of entertainment today. Last season citys success was based on a great spine (Hart,Kompany,Yaya, Aguero) but for some reason this year the first 3 in particular have been shadows of the players they were last season.

Im still not convinced that Arry will keep QPR up. Today could be discounted as a bad day in the office, but in general they have been drawing games and not winning. In a league with 3 points for a win, a draw isnt much better than a loss.

As a welsh fan it will be very strange seeing 2 welsh teams in the premeriship next season. I remember spending my teens seeing wrexham, swansea and cardiff scrapping in league 1/league 2. If someone had told me there would be 2 welsh sides in the top level, I would have laughed, pity its the wrong 2!

Edited February 9, 2013 by pink_triangle

[kaosmark2]

What are you talking about...

[strummer77]

Im still not convinced that Arry will keep QPR up. Today could be discounted as a bad day in the office, but in general they have been drawing games and not winning. In a league with 3 points for a win, a draw isnt much better than a loss.

[Essex_George]

I wonder if utd will rest a load of players tomorrow or go for the kill.