2013 Lineup

[Vieuphoria]

Plus why are you so sure they're massively expensive? Why are they more expensive than other bands?

[KVShinedown]

The amount that DP would cost they would have to be a headliner. Fests will be clamouring over them when they do actually play. I can't see any fest actually getting them though, other than Coachella. I don't think R&L could afford them, Glasto couldn't, V wouldn't. People would come from all over the world for it.

[rug568]

They were doing their own massive gigs at the same time. If R&L are happy to let them do their own outdoor gigs, then they can fund it that way, but i highly suspect that's the thing that would be bollocks.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Plus why are you so sure they're massively expensive? Why are they more expensive than other bands?

Edited April 9, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[jonodillieono]

Plus why are you so sure they're massively expensive? Why are they more expensive than other bands?

[Vieuphoria]

They would not headline. Please stop deluding yourself.

[Vieuphoria]

also... Bands turn down festivals all the time. Doesn't mean it's about the money, it just doesn't fit with their schedule.

oh and you say they wouldn't accept anything other than headline? Clearly not true because they accepted a 2nd stage headline slot at Rockness. Regardless of what happened. They still accepted the slot they were in.

The rarity of the performance might just justify a headline slot. But they just aren't big enough. Look at all the headliners of the past few years, Daft Punk would be one of the weakest.

Edited April 9, 2012 by Vieuphoria

[Mouseboy11]

They're a bigger headliner than Bloc Party if you ask me.

[Vieuphoria]

In general, yes. For Reading? I don't think so.

Bloc Party aren't a big band at all. But in terms of Reading they're a staple band. Bit of a silly comparison.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

I guess we have massive difference in opinions regarding Daft Punk, but any act which sells 70,000 tickets for it's own London show is definitely a headline act for me.

Anyway, with regards to The Libertines, I highly doubt they'll be back at all, let alone that quickly.

Peter is openly back on crack, back with Wolfe and Roundhill and dragging himself into making this solo record. It's a very similar situation to the end of The Libertines (without his enthusiasm to actually do anything) and the kind of thing Carlos hated.

Considering Carl openly spoke of his disdain for the characters Peter's currently around, I can't remember him actually wanting to commit to anything. There were massive tensions even during the reformation this year, with Carlos openly talking about his anger/disappointment of Peter's lack of commitment.

Peter's refound his lack of appearence skills, with many gigs being cancelled over the past couple of months, and many "last minute" gigs being added, or second sets after the first. It's all very deja-vu-ish, the only thing missing is Peter's actual creative urge, which is arguably in its worse state it has been in years.

I'd also question whether they would actually headline. I'd put my money on them not having a new record by this time in two years, let alone next year, and don't see why they'd headline without any new material.

Edited April 9, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[Mouseboy11]

In general, yes. For Reading? I don't think so.

Bloc Party aren't a big band at all. But in terms of Reading they're a staple band. Bit of a silly comparison.

[Hucksy]

They would not headline. Please stop deluding yourself.

[Yellow_Fellow]

The only bigger artist representing the electronic genre on Last.fm is Gorillaz and that's only by 100,000 listeners. When they're in the hundreds of millions that isn't really much a difference.

[Vieuphoria]

however you want to quantify it, they aren't a headline act. Album sales, chart positions, popularity etc etc they just aren't big enough. The only reason people think they would headline is merely due to the rarity of their live shows. To those who care, Daft Punk would be a huge booking. But the vast majority would be kind of nonplussed.

Their not the sort of act Reading would book to headline, because they aren't Reading headliners. Bestival, Creamfields, Glasto Other Stage, but Reading Mainstage just wouldn't happen. Nor should it.

It's be a cool booking, but an undeniably weak one.

[Yellow_Fellow]

The vast majority of Reading goers don't care for The Cure, but hey looky that...

[Vieuphoria]

Well done sir. You've realised you're wrong I see

Many were saying The Cure weren't headliners, I was right about that too you see

Edited April 9, 2012 by Vieuphoria

[Yellow_Fellow]

Condescension, for when you can't actually justify your arguments. Good one.

[Andre91]

How would a DJ set with a light show qualify as a headliner for one of the biggest festivals in the country?

[chriseede]

How would a DJ set with a light show qualify as a headliner for one of the biggest festivals in the country?

[Vieuphoria]

changing the subject, when you can't justify yours?

UK charts - 8, 2, 10, 39

Album Sales - Gold, Platinum, Silver

Festival slots - Headlined Wireless, played 2nd stage Rockness

people really do think they are a lot bigger than they actually are.

If they release a massive next album, then yes they could headline. But as of now, hell no.

[VCK]

Simmer down lads. Daft Punk could headline IMO, but I can't see The Libertines doing so. Surely they would have done in 2010? They weren't even that big when they were around anyway, it's only since they broke up that there's been this whole mythical aura attached to them. I certainly don't remember them getting as much coverage on MTV2 et al as The Strokes, Muse, Foo Fighters, The Darkness and White Stripes who were the leading Alternative Rock bands circa 2002-03. They played 3rd from top when they were still together as well, and before that 6th (when they were touring Up The Bracket). They were probably around the same size as Two Door Cinema Club are now, but obviously with a dedicated, bordeline obsessive cult fanbase.

[AcademicPistol]

How would a DJ set with a light show qualify as a headliner for one of the biggest festivals in the country?

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

changing the subject, when you can't justify yours?

UK charts - 8, 2, 10, 39

Album Sales - Gold, Platinum, Silver

Festival slots - Headlined Wireless, played 2nd stage Rockness

people really do think they are a lot bigger than they actually are.

If they release a massive next album, then yes they could headline. But as of now, hell no.

[Vieuphoria]

I hate to do it, considering I believe they should, but you can use the equivalent stats to show The Cure shouldn't headline.

[Andre91]

I don't know but it hasn't stopped The Prodigy.

All this machinery making modern music can still be open hearted - Geddy Lee (Rush).

Edited April 9, 2012 by Andre91