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Possibly Libertines? To quote Pete "With Carl or without"

I think it's hugely unlikely to happen next year with Carl - he'll be promoting his solo stuff.

And I'd guess that if a Libs reunion goes ahead without Carl and so undermines his attempts to sell his solo stuff, he probably wouldn't be much endeared towards being involved in a Libs reunion at a later date.

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Carl Barat has said he will not reform The Libertines until at least 2011, because he is too busy.

Speaking at the premiere of the 'Breaking Rocks' film at Proud Camden in London last night (October 1), Barat told the BBC that The Libertines will not reform in 2010, adding that he doesn't want to simply regroup for money.

"I'm too busy next year. Maybe the year after that," he said. "See how it goes. When it needs to happen, it will fall into place. It's more a way of life than a band for me. I’m not going to jump up there and play the songs for some money – if it feels right then it will fall into place."

Barat also stated that he hasn't spoken to Pete Doherty "for a while", though he keeps being sent text messages from fans pretending to be his old bandmate.

"I keep getting kids texting me pretending to be Pete, which is a bit confusing because I never know when it actually is [Doherty]," he revealed. "Without realising, I could be harming my diplomatic relations with Pete by sending reactionary texts."

In March this year, Pete Doherty told NME.COM that The Libertines have "unfinished business", and was keen to get the group back together

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agree totally that above bands although lively crowds (just because they are all bloody good :lol: ) there aren't no more dangerous than most other gig crowds....

I'd say that nine deaths at Roskilde disproves what you say. :lol:

And no comparison can be made with their appearances at much smaller festivals such as Reading, as the size of the crowd is a very relevant part to how safe things are.

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I'd say that nine deaths at Roskilde disproves what you say. :lol:

And no comparison can be made with their appearances at much smaller festivals such as Reading, as the size of the crowd is a very relevant part to how safe things are.

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A lot has changed since the Roskilde tragedy, mostly crowd awareness. That almost changed overnight after Roskilde imo...

I think Pearl Jam would be a great Other Stage headliner, but unfortunatley i dont think they would ever agree to it because of what happened at Roskilde. Glastonbury's "open plan" layout could cause some issues if they were going to arise.

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edit oh it was Metalic at Roskilde wasn't it whoops my bad but actually although 1 really really bad case that is out of how many gigs they have done? plus wasn't it bad crowd control and safety procedures that also caused this rather than the band themselves? I can't remember full details tbh

The deaths at Roskilde were during a Pearl Jam set.

Yes, there were other issues involved in causing it, but those other issues wouldn't have been issues without the crowd doing what they did. Disasters normally take a combination of factors coming together in a particular way to bring them about; by avoiding certain types of acts, that's one of the factors (and one that an organiser can control better than what a crowd might do) removed.

Eavis has decided that he'd absolutely hate anything similar to happen at his festival; he doesn't want to be, however remotely, responsible for people's deaths thru the choices he makes in putting on a festival where enjoyment is meant to be what it's all about.

I think it's quite easy for festival goers to criticise him for that choice, so to understand his reasoning, put yourself in the position of being a festival organiser: how would you feel if deaths occurred as a result of your choices at a festival you ran? :lol:

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I would love to see the Beastie Boys headline the second stage, it looks like good news re: Adam and his cancer and the new album is looking like it will released early next year.

Chemical Brothers, Dizzee Rascal and Beastie Boys would offer a good alternative to 'traditional headliners'

http://www.nme.com/news/beastie-boys/47722

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The deaths at Roskilde were during a Pearl Jam set.

Yes, there were other issues involved in causing it, but those other issues wouldn't have been issues without the crowd doing what they did. Disasters normally take a combination of factors coming together in a particular way to bring them about; by avoiding certain types of acts, that's one of the factors (and one that an organiser can control better than what a crowd might do) removed.

Eavis has decided that he'd absolutely hate anything similar to happen at his festival; he doesn't want to be, however remotely, responsible for people's deaths thru the choices he makes in putting on a festival where enjoyment is meant to be what it's all about.

I think it's quite easy for festival goers to criticise him for that choice, so to understand his reasoning, put yourself in the position of being a festival organiser: how would you feel if deaths occurred as a result of your choices at a festival you ran? :lol:

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Roskilde was mainly attributed to sound problems at the back though, causing the spectators to push forward as they couldn't hear. Agree that combination of other things such as the weather conditions played a part and the organisers were found late in reacting/breakdown in chain of command, but would still say it's arguable that the same wouldn't have happened with any hugely popular band eg. radiohead or any large dance act.

The sound problems cause no safety risk in themselves. If only becomes a risk if the crowd react in an unsafe manner to those sound problems, which is what happened at Roskilde.

Is your average Radiohead fan - so that means a huge number of them - enough of a numptie to push themselves forwards thru a crowd in those circumstances? Certainly not to anything like the extent of the average rock fan. :)

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