am i the only one who hopes

[The Nal]

Delighted for the lad!

[the_hedge]

Wasn't sure he had it in him but so pleased for him. What a summer we have had.

Wiggins, Wier, Farrah, Ennis, Hoy, Mcllroy - Pick the bones out of that!!

[Spindles]

Listening to five live this morning, discussion about who should get sports personality of the year award and this year is going to be cruel, so many great british sports men and women, only one can win :/

[the_hedge]

Listening to five live this morning, discussion about who should get sports personality of the year award and this year is going to be cruel, so many great british sports men and women, only one can win :/

Edited September 11, 2012 by the_hedge

[dondo]

Well done Murray- what a fantastic match

Had a long day at work yesterday but am so glad I stayed up and watched the match as it was superb- and fair play to Novak for making it probably one of the best tennis matches I've ever watched

[pink_triangle]

Murray won't win because he divides a opinion, he is disliked by a lot of people for his dour personality. I think in the grand scheme of things, although it's a nice prize to win, I don't think any of the above mentioned winners will be lose any sleep if they don't win it.

[the_hedge]

I personally would give it to either Weir or Wiggins. It's amazing but a lot of people out there still don't get what the 'big' thing is with Bradley winning the Tour de France. I was speechless when people said it's just 'cycling', and it doesn't take any 'skill'!!!

[the_hedge]

i'm game...

what skill is involved in cycling?

Edited September 11, 2012 by the_hedge

[pink_triangle]

Tactics, working as a team, ensuring you attack at the right times....

You could say the same about any running event but you don't hear people saying 'it's just running'

[the_hedge]

While I can appreciate the talent and endurance in cycling, it is my lack of knowlege of the sport which means I rank others higher. I find the team element a little confusing, would Wiggins have won in any other team or is it like formula 1 where there are only a few teams who can realisitclaly win?

Edited September 11, 2012 by the_hedge

[Spindles]

I liked that Charlie Brooker article. Sums up the point made by others earlier in the thread well. My favourite paragraph:

The people who want Murray to smile are the same ones who try to make me dance at weddings. They want the world to conspicuously enjoy itself in a manner of their choosing, and they turn vaguely sanctimonious when they encounter pockets of resistance, as though their definition of fun is the only one that matters.

[Ed209]

Murray won't win because he divides a opinion, he is disliked by a lot of people for his dour personality. I think in the grand scheme of things, although it's a nice prize to win, I don't think any of the above mentioned winners will be lose any sleep if they don't win it.

[the_hedge]

Saying that, his tears at Wimbledon endeared him to a lot more people. I think Murray is in with a great shout,

For me its,

Murray

Wiggins

Mo

saying that I was out of the country for the paralympics and didn't get any coverage of it in the States (scandalous) so I can't gauge public reaction to our paralympians

[Ed209]

I heard that was the case. Which is fantastic. I would say that makes me proud to be british, but I'll probably get some miserable sod beating me down for it.

Unbelievable that america didn't broadcast any of it. Think it is representative of a different attitude that they have over here towards people with disabilities. I would say 90% of yanks didn't even know it was going on.

[thetime]

Murray olympic gold wimbledon final us open winner

Wiggins tour de france winner olympic gold medal

Mo double olympic champion

Murray wont win, out of wiggins and mo for me. Does the average voter care about tour de france? Will be mo if he gets the media attention and chat programmes that I think he will.

[eFestivals]

Unbelievable that america didn't broadcast any of it. Think it is representative of a different attitude that they have over here towards people with disabilities. I would say 90% of yanks didn't even know it was going on.

according to Stephen Hawking on Newsnight last night, the USA caters for the disabled better than the UK.

According to Will Self in response, that's the impression that a well-to-do person like Hawking would get, and then suggested he take a journey around some of the less plush neighbourhoods of Chicago.

[the_hedge]

Murray olympic gold wimbledon final us open winner

Wiggins tour de france winner olympic gold medal

Mo double olympic champion

Murray wont win, out of wiggins and mo for me. Does the average voter care about tour de france? Will be mo if he gets the media attention and chat programmes that I think he will.

Edited September 11, 2012 by the_hedge

[Ed209]

according to Stephen Hawking on Newsnight last night, the USA caters for the disabled better than the UK.

According to Will Self in response, that's the impression that a well-to-do person like Hawking would get, and then suggested he take a journey around some of the less plush neighbourhoods of Chicago.

Edited September 11, 2012 by Ed209

[The Nal]

according to Stephen Hawking on Newsnight last night, the USA caters for the disabled better than the UK.

According to Will Self in response, that's the impression that a well-to-do person like Hawking would get, and then suggested he take a journey around some of the less plush neighbourhoods of Chicago.

[eFestivals]

Hawking was a recorded piece at the beginning.

The panel was Will Self, one each of a gold medal winning olympian and paralympian, and a disabled musician and actor who apparently played the drums for Coldplay at the closing ceremony.

[Kowalski]

IMHO the SPOTY should be between Murray, Farah and Weir, would love to see any of the three win.

I'm not a huge road cycling fan, mainly because the sport has been so tarnished over the years. It's clearly a huge achievement what Wiggins has done but there's also an element of it being a team sport rather than an individual sport.

But don't underestimate the tartan vote on SPOTY night!

[eFestivals]

But don't underestimate the tartan vote on SPOTY night!

ahh yeah, as has been so well displayed on so many other voting shows. NI, Wales and England vote for people on their abilities &/or personalities, while the Scots vote for someone cos they're Scottish.

Murray's a shoe-in.

[Ed209]

Have they introduced a no-personality category then?

Fuck me, he wins and still looks miserable as sin.

Edited September 11, 2012 by Ed209

[eFestivals]

He doesn't have to jump for joy or anything. Just a hint of some happiness.

[Ed209]

looks happy enough to me:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/

it seemed odd how he was after the match... he looked in agony