UK Politics

[steviewevie]

Jeez man Burnham has invited Trump to Manchester.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Healy for chancellor, Miliband foreign sec, Mahmood energy sec.

You heard it here first.

f**k me I think I'm right!

 

HAHAHAHA

[steviewevie]

this is hilarious. Actually love that. Quite like Healey.

 

[steviewevie]

Proper Blairite centrist too, loves guns and war. Love it.

[steviewevie]

ok, so I assume realistically that means Mahmood stays as Home sec which I'm sure will please everyone. f**k knows about Miliband.

[steviewevie]

I guess the dream is Mahmood as foreign sec, and Miliband gets Home office.

[steviewevie]

He's back

[steviewevie]

means more for defence, less for welfare

[sheffinghell]

There's talk on BlueSky that Reeves was offered Defence! Imagine her and Healey having to sort out their differences in public 😅

[steviewevie]

Ed Miliband is foreign sec.

[steviewevie]

Mahmood stays as Home Sec.

lol

[sheffinghell]

Sky News saying she asked to stay there to 'finish the job'

[sheffinghell]

Lou Haigh - Duchy of Lancaster

[steviewevie]

Just now, sheffinghell said:

Lou Haigh - Duchy of Lancaster

that's nice. What is it?

[sheffinghell]

Managing the Cabinet Office - Darren Jones was previous

 

Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster - GOV.UK https://share.google/ZCrzsT8JcwOW7caVd

 

Effectively the PM's right hand

 

Actually, there's more, very senior position of First Sec of State too.

Edited July 20 by sheffinghell

[steviewevie]

I wonder who is going to be defence sec. Please let it be Al Carns.

[steviewevie]

So, the word on the street (bluesky), is this all means massive tax rises on the way...ignoring the fact that there might also be some spending cuts in various places.

 

Bring Back Keir.

[sheffinghell]

Dan Jarvis might be an option I guess.

Also very interested in what Yvette Cooper gets.

 

And Angela Rayner - there's been talk of Health.

Edited July 20 by sheffinghell

[steviewevie]

Rayner has gone into No.10

[xxialac]

2 hours ago, xxialac said:

It'll be Mahmood which the markets will accept and supported by a heavy duty investment banker to also reassure the markets.

I'm completely wrong.

[steviewevie]

Just now, xxialac said:

I'm completely wrong.

well you weren't the only one, a lot of the media were convinced too. Either someone somewhere was stringing people along, or there was a sudden change of mind by Burnham/whoever this weekend.

[kaosmark2]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

tbh not sure its just the markets if he doesn't pick Miliband, it will be more about authority and who's government this actually is.

The authority/political machinations argument is a much better reason not to pick Miliband as chancellor.

Putting him in the Foreign Office is batshit though. Miliband is a policy wonk, diplomacy and grubby deals are the things he's worst at.

[kaosmark2]

I don't really mind Healey as Chancellor. It's not Mahmood/Streeting and it's someone with nous and treasury experience.

 

Lou Haigh being given such a powerful role is good news IMO. I really like her and think she was harshly treated by "no scandal Starmer" who then had about 7 subsequent scandals that were all worse.

[xxialac]

I wonder if the Healey appointment however is seen as guaranteeing higher (defence) spending and which in turn suggests more borrowing and the markets might not like that.

 

I can't really see where Labour are going to get the money from to pay for their plans, given they can't touch the big taxes based on the manifesto promise.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, xxialac said:

I wonder if the Healey appointment however is seen as guaranteeing higher (defence) spending and which in turn suggests more borrowing and the markets might not like that.

 

of course it is...and they will struggle to borrow more but they can have a go...but more likely tax rises, and welfare cuts.

 

I actually think they're f**ked, but maybe they'll work something out,