Spiral_Low Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Heyzoos said: Are we all taking A7X/FOB/QOTSA as cast iron now? Anyone out there still not given up hope that there might be another headliner in the mix? Surely someone can give us a decent alternative to hope for over the next few days at work...? AX7 is pretty certain but I would not be surprised if QOTSA pop up as a sub. They aren't headlining at either Hellfest or Rock Am/Im. Plus Fall Out Boy not appearing in any other fest announcements yet. Also it's probably irrelevant but I think have spotted someone on FB (not Lee) who leaked last year saying it's only 1/3 out of AX7/FOB/QOTSA. I'm certainly not taking that as any evidence though. Edited November 2, 2023 by Spiral_Low 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzoos Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 That's the kind of gold I was after! Something to cling onto until next Tues... Mind you it's the hope that gets ya... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka23 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Spiral_Low said: AX7 is pretty certain but I would not be surprised if QOTSA pop up as a sub. They aren't headlining at either Hellfest or Rock Am/Im. Plus Fall Out Boy not appearing in any other fest announcements yet. Also it's probably irrelevant but I think have spotted someone on FB (not Lee) who leaked last year saying it's only 1/3 out of AX7/FOB/QOTSA. I'm certainly not taking that as any evidence though. I'd be surprised (although happy) if it ended up being Avenged and two other headliners and Queens are infact subbing and FoB aren't there at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral_Low Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marka23 said: I'd be surprised (although happy) if it ended up being Avenged and two other headliners and Queens are infact subbing and FoB aren't there at all. I think you know who I'm referring too btw (I reluctantly popped into the Download official forums and have seen they are active again). But like I said not reading too much into it, was a throwaway comments on one of Downloads FB posts in response to someone posting AX7/QOTSA/FOB. Anyway....worth noting none of the fests you'd expect Pearl Jam to play (if they come to Europe) have announced yet. And I'm still not convinced SOAD are ruled out....I think from now on their appearances will be few and far between and a one off show at Download would fit with Serj basically saying a few shows yes but a tour no. Something like: AX7 / Machine Head Pearl Jam / QOTSA SOAD / Korn Would be pretty 'strong'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice to Michu Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Spiral_Low said: I think you know who I'm referring too btw (I reluctantly popped into the Download official forums and have seen they are active again). But like I said not reading too much into it, was a throwaway comments on one of Downloads FB posts in response to someone posting AX7/QOTSA/FOB. Anyway....worth noting none of the fests you'd expect Pearl Jam to play (if they come to Europe) have announced yet. And I'm still not convinced SOAD are ruled out....I think from now on their appearances will be few and far between and a one off show at Download would fit with Serj basically saying a few shows yes but a tour no. Something like: AX7 / Machine Head Pearl Jam / QOTSA SOAD / Korn Would be pretty 'strong'. I said before the 2024 on the Download font looks very Pearl Jam to me 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka23 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Spiral_Low said: I think you know who I'm referring too btw (I reluctantly popped into the Download official forums and have seen they are active again). But like I said not reading too much into it, was a throwaway comments on one of Downloads FB posts in response to someone posting AX7/QOTSA/FOB. Anyway....worth noting none of the fests you'd expect Pearl Jam to play (if they come to Europe) have announced yet. And I'm still not convinced SOAD are ruled out....I think from now on their appearances will be few and far between and a one off show at Download would fit with Serj basically saying a few shows yes but a tour no. Something like: AX7 / Machine Head Pearl Jam / QOTSA SOAD / Korn Would be pretty 'strong'. I've seen a few supposed 'leakers' on reddit also saying Avenged are the only one that's actually correct. I know it's unlikely but would be surprising if FoB and Queens were a red herring leak made to hide them having two big headliners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral_Low Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nice to Michu said: I said before the 2024 on the Download font looks very Pearl Jam to me 😜 Would be a brilliant booking! 1 minute ago, Marka23 said: I've seen a few supposed 'leakers' on reddit also saying Avenged are the only one that's actually correct. I know it's unlikely but would be surprising if FoB and Queens were a red herring leak made to hide them having two big headliners I can deffo see that being the case given last year's debacle (debacle from the fests point of view). And if QOTSA are subbing it wouldn't be a stretch to imply they were headliners to throw people off the scent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka23 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spiral_Low said: Would be a brilliant booking! I can deffo see that being the case given last year's debacle (debacle from the fests point of view). And if QOTSA are subbing it wouldn't be a stretch to imply they were headliners to throw people off the scent. Only thing is people who said FoB and Queens are headlining were also told about the announcement on the 7th which we know is happening. Still hoping the headliner part is a red herring as it's a pretty underwhelming set of headliners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Regarding QOTSA and that they subbed last time they played. I've seen it mentioned a lot, especially on Reddit, last time they played they subbed so will sub again. It was ELEVEN years ago. The headliners already booked that year were Maiden, Rammstein and Slipknot. They hadn't made the transition from Academy band in UK fully at that point. They've since done 3 successful Arena UK tours and more mainstream albums and success. Any other 'rock' act that does that is headlining Download. They aren't doing a package tour like Slipknot did with Korn, they've virtually sold out an entire UK arena tour with some no name supports. Standing went in an instant. I understand they aren't everyone's cup of tea, but they're absolutely big enough. Doesn't matter what slot they're playing at other festivals in Euro 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka23 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, luckysalt said: Regarding QOTSA and that they subbed last time they played. I've seen it mentioned a lot, especially on Reddit, last time they played they subbed so will sub again. It was ELEVEN years ago. The headliners already booked that year were Maiden, Rammstein and Slipknot. They hadn't made the transition from Academy band in UK fully at that point. They've since done 3 successful Arena UK tours and more mainstream albums and success. Any other 'rock' act that does that is headlining Download. They aren't doing a package tour like Slipknot did with Korn, they've virtually sold out an entire UK arena tour with some no name supports. Standing went in an instant. I understand they aren't everyone's cup of tea, but they're absolutely big enough. Doesn't matter what slot they're playing at other festivals in Euro There's still quite a few tickets available for their tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Oh and Pearl Jam, they said they would never play Download as they felt they didn't want to be playing a festival with the line ups Download has, they wanted more mainstream multi genre line ups, hence why they've played other Live Nation (and other promoters) UK festivals but never Download. So don't get your hopes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Marka23 said: There's still quite a few tickets available for their tour Generally unless you're massive, artists will have difficulty shifting all seating tickets. Standing though I think went pretty quickly and that's what Download will look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, luckysalt said: Oh and Pearl Jam, they said they would never play Download as they felt they didn't want to be playing a festival with the line ups Download has, they wanted more mainstream multi genre line ups, hence why they've played other Live Nation (and other promoters) UK festivals but never Download. So don't get your hopes up. Don’t suppose you’ve got any info on the DL lineup like the old days, Mr Salt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Bit of an updated punt: Fall Out Boy / The Offspring / Enter Shikari / Bad Omens / Creeper / Atreyu / Static Dress Pantera / Bruce Dickinson Bury Tomorrow Crosses Queens of the Stone Age / Royal Blood / Electric Callboy / Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes / Wargasm / Thy Art Is Murder / Cassyette Five Finger Death Punch / Corey Taylor The Menzingers Fear Factory Avenged Sevenfold / Machine Head / Babymetal / Beartooth / Mudvayne / LVNDMARKS / Employed To Serve Avril Lavigne / Billy Talent Dropkick Murphys Biohazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Andre91 said: Bit of an updated punt: Fall Out Boy / The Offspring / Enter Shikari / Bad Omens / Creeper / Atreyu / Static Dress Pantera / Bruce Dickinson Bury Tomorrow Crosses Queens of the Stone Age / Royal Blood / Electric Callboy / Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes / Wargasm / Thy Art Is Murder / Cassyette Five Finger Death Punch / Corey Taylor The Menzingers Fear Factory Avenged Sevenfold / Machine Head / Babymetal / Beartooth / Mudvayne / LVNDMARKS / Employed To Serve Avril Lavigne / Billy Talent Dropkick Murphys Biohazard I don't think Avril and Billy Talent is enough to convince weekend ticket buyers. I was as big Fall Out Boy and The Offspring fan as they come and I wouldn't make the effort to go back a day for Mudvayne, Billy and Avril. I'd be more likely to miss the Friday completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice to Michu Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Andre91 said: Bit of an updated punt: Fall Out Boy / The Offspring / Enter Shikari / Bad Omens / Creeper / Atreyu / Static Dress Pantera / Bruce Dickinson Bury Tomorrow Crosses Queens of the Stone Age / Royal Blood / Electric Callboy / Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes / Wargasm / Thy Art Is Murder / Cassyette Five Finger Death Punch / Corey Taylor The Menzingers Fear Factory Avenged Sevenfold / Machine Head / Babymetal / Beartooth / Mudvayne / LVNDMARKS / Employed To Serve Avril Lavigne / Billy Talent Dropkick Murphys Biohazard Stacked! Beartooth for Babymetal imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, luckysalt said: Oh and Pearl Jam, they said they would never play Download as they felt they didn't want to be playing a festival with the line ups Download has, they wanted more mainstream multi genre line ups, hence why they've played other Live Nation (and other promoters) UK festivals but never Download. So don't get your hopes up. why/how were they booked in 2013 if this is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nice to Michu said: Stacked! Beartooth for Babymetal imo. Yeah, I was flip flopping on those two but Babymetal are getting really big slots everywhere so I went for them in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka23 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, luckysalt said: Oh and Pearl Jam, they said they would never play Download as they felt they didn't want to be playing a festival with the line ups Download has, they wanted more mainstream multi genre line ups, hence why they've played other Live Nation (and other promoters) UK festivals but never Download. So don't get your hopes up. Pearl Jam were booked in 2013 but dropped out when Vodaphone leaked the announcement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Marka23 said: Pearl Jam were booked in 2013 but dropped out when Vodaphone leaked the announcement I don’t know that’s 100% accurate, Vodaphone did leak the announcement but I think Pearl Jam pulled out last minute because they canned the first leg of the tour & didn’t come to Europe until the year after. Point still stands though, they were booked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice to Michu Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Turnstile not looking likely? Have they been announced for any festivals in June? Imagine they’ll end up at R&L on the Blink day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral_Low Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Interesting to note that from the Rock Am Ring FB announcement AX7 and QOTSA marketed as German festival exclusives whereas some of the others as German 2024 exclusives. Machine Head and Kreator marketed as neither. Implies all 4 have German dates other than fests coming up and Machine Head and Kreator might also do other German fests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Yeast Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 It is interesting that FOB are being written off everywhere as they've not been announced for European festivals but the bands being suggested have nothing either The remaining possible headliner pool is getting pretty shallow unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice to Michu Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Didn’t System Of A Down announce a worldwide tour one year the same time Download announced them? Could be a band wants to announce a worldwide tour the day Download announce, doubt it but never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimMacVeigh Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 I reckon Life of Agony to headline the Dogtooth stage one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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