Spiral_Low
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Wouldn't be surprised if they were sub but I can see them as 2nd stage headliner. Especially up against Run The Jewels. Slipknot I still think will do a Knotfest UK. Machine Head like I've mentioned before I think will do a festival run as quite simply they could do with the cash.
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Fri: SOAD, Disturbed, Halestorm Sat: Metallica, Machine Head, Gojira Sun: RATM, Run The Jewels, Alice In Chains
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Agreed on both.
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And Nova Rock. And those dates all add up that would be 5 fests in 3 weeks. That's a mini tour already. Could also do an Ireland date and Swedish and Finnish dates. And the current tour doesn't venture into Eastern Europe at all - Poland an obvious country there. And potentially Baltic's too? And Russia? Serbia? They normally hit all or some of those countries too.
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I can't see Metallica doing a European tour and not playing the UK. It would be very odd. That's why it feels to me like if they aren't doing 2022 UK date it's cuz they have a big (so probs festival) 2023 date plan. RATM I think depends on whether they do Reading/Leeds or not. I think it will be something like: Fri: SOAD, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit Sat: Metallica, Machine Head Sun: Rammstein, Ghost, Gojira
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Rammstein new album apparently going to be released before their 2022 tour. Would say they deffo are a candidate for headliner in 2023. Can't see them effectively touring 2 new albums just for the 1 season. Makes sense for them to continue in 2023 with festivals too.
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And yet they play arenas on their other UK dates. Probably more to do with the type of festival Reading is rather than them....
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Yeah it feels like there 'should' be one given the other Slipknot European dates and so many bands missing from Download who are otherwise doing the fests. Obvs some at Bloodstock but still.
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The main argument about Biffy headlining isn't that they aren't capable, it's that if they can why can't Korn? And the answer at the end of the day is all about UK wide tour ticket sales, where Biffy beat Korn by a fair amount. But a Download audience isn't a UK wide one, hence why many people feel aggreived. It's all a symptom of Download's headliner problem tbh.
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They deffo got some hate for Supercharger but that went away after The Blackening. Plus I think it's really underestimated how many people actually love The Burning Red album (play From This Day at a metal night and a good deal of the older crowd will go crazy for it). That tour would have been with Metallica so tbh it was probs just some part time rock fans who like the black album who were doing the booing.
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Most Machine Head hate comes from American right wing keyboard warriors and a handful of UK folk to try to emulate them.
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Machine Head and Amon Amarth co-headline arena your announced for UK and Europe Autumn 2022. Both good bets for Download 2023 unless they headline Bloodstock that year. Porcupine Tree reunion too. UK/Europe dates tba for Oct/Nov next year. Another candidate too.
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Can't see them being that high up. They were never that big in the UK tbh. Maybe one of the other main stage slits though there is a couple left on the Sunday, though as I mentioned before if Download have any sense they'd move Spiritbox to one of those. Clashfinder also thinks the second stage slot on Saturday before Mastodon is free and I could see them doing that.
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Yeah it's very frustrating. I know I disagree with you over some potential headliners but yeah deffo agree they don't do anywhere near enough to promote new bands.
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Agreed!