news & politics:discussion

[Ozanne]

I imagine the solution Truss will go for will be to freeze energy bills but do it by giving the energy companies loans which we the tax payers have to pay back eventually.

[Neil]

15 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I imagine the solution Truss will go for will be to freeze energy bills but do it by giving the energy companies loans which we the tax payers have to pay back eventually.

apparently she'll announce her plans on thursday.

[Ozanne]

22 minutes ago, Neil said:

apparently she'll announce her plans on thursday.

No time like the present, the same people that moaned about Starmer not saying something weeks ago will say nothing to this. 

[steviewevie]

I reckon she'll do something dramatic to ease some of the anxieties, she'll want to get off on a good start.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

Boris was so useless it made us wish we had May or Cameron back. Is Truss going to fuck up so badly that it makes us wish we had Boris back? 
 

Somehow I doubt it. Only question now is can it get any worse?

She's more right wing, more ideological. I'm missing Boris already.

[pink_triangle]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

She's more right wing, more ideological. I'm missing Boris already.

I'm not convinced she is more ideological, look at how many times she has switched her beliefs. I think she just will say whatever is politically convenient at the time, not convinced she has an ideology.

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I'm not convinced she is more ideological

she must be: as boris wasn't ideological at all.

[Ozanne]

48 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I reckon she'll do something dramatic to ease some of the anxieties, she'll want to get off on a good start.

She’s also said she doesn’t believe in wealth redistribution too so maybe she’ll be very bad at this. 

[Ozanne]

Peston is saying that for Truss’ this plan householders will end up paying. Shocking. 

[steviewevie]

52 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I'm not convinced she is more ideological, look at how many times she has switched her beliefs. I think she just will say whatever is politically convenient at the time, not convinced she has an ideology.

well, we'll see...she has certainly been on a journey from lib dem to right of tory party...but she's been on the right for a while now, was one of the authors of that britannia unchained thing, and only rowed back on some of the things she said during the current campaign when looked electorally bad for her, after today she doesn't have to worry about an election for a couple of years (probably). With Kwarteng as chancellor and Braverman as home sec we're looking at a pretty right wing govt on economics and culture/social stuff. More right wing than Johnson, Cameron and Thatcher.

[squirrelarmy]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

More right wing than Johnson, Cameron and Thatcher.

I’ve noticed the Queen of Darkness that is Patel isn’t amongst the cabinet. 
 

Is she going to be lurking in the shadows ready to take over when Truss fails? 

[steviewevie]

wholesale gas prices are up 26% due to Nord Stream 1 remaining closed...

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

I’ve noticed the Queen of Darkness that is Patel isn’t amongst the cabinet. 
 

Is she going to be lurking in the shadows ready to take over when Truss fails? 

yeah, I don't know...I think many people think she was a bit shit as home sec due to immigrants in boats...I think her chances might be over.

[steviewevie]

I expect she'll get a bounce, but even so...

 

[Ozanne]

16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I expect she'll get a bounce, but even so...

 

Wow. That would be immense. 

[squirrelarmy]

The Tories don’t want her. Obviously want Sunak even less. There’s a couple of articles about on trying to get Spaffer back in the hot seat before the year is out. 
 

We need major electoral reform. 

[steviewevie]

IT'S RISHI!

[gary1979666]

18 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

IT'S RISHI!

I bloody fell for that - hadn't realised announcement was at half 12! You bugger!

[Neil]

dragging it out.

[Ozanne]

Liz Truss it is. 

[gary1979666]

Was closer than I thought - only 57% of the vote.

Edited September 5, 2022 by gary1979666
update

[Ozanne]

What is this speech? It’s poor. 

[ian the worm]

Just now, Ozanne said:

What is this speech? It’s poor. 

You’ll get used to it. 

[squirrelarmy]

I’m not watching but I’m hearing that they’ve turned the cringe dial up to 11

[Skip997]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Liz Truss it is. 

We're f*cked.

How long until there's no festivals, other than maybe the big ones.