Football 2015/16

[mjsell]

1 hour ago, Will-2609 said:

Lol finishing 2nd in Belgium's group means you face either our group winner or a 3rd placed team in the QF.

Winning their group means you'd (probably) play Germany in the QF.

Good result for Belgium, then

Although it also means they will play the runner up of Group D in the last 16 - i'd fancy Croatia or Spain against that Belgian performance 

 

Edited June 14, 2016 by mjsell

[Gucci Piggy]

1 minute ago, mjsell said:

Although it also means they will play the runner up of Group E in the last 16 - i'd fancy Croatia or Spain against that Belgian performance 

 

They play the runner up of that group if they win their group. If they finish second they play the winner of Portugal's group.

Win the group - runner up of Spain's group (probably Croatia), then Germany

Runner up in the group - winner of group F (probably Portugal/Austria), then probably winner of our group

I'd much rather be faced with the second scenario.

[mjsell]

7 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

They play the runner up of that group if they win their group. If they finish second they play the winner of Portugal's group.

Win the group - runner up of Spain's group (probably Croatia), then Germany

Runner up in the group - winner of group F (probably Portugal/Austria), then probably winner of our group

I'd much rather be faced with the second scenario.

Sorry yep you are correct - was reading the wall chart at work from too much of a distance.

And yes the second route definitely looks a better option. But again, going on last nights performance they might be lucky to get out the group, it was like watching England from a few years ago, so slow.

Edited June 14, 2016 by mjsell

[eFestivals]

so ... I reckon England will get kicked out of the comp at about the same time we vote ourselves out of the EU.

 

[mjsell]

its annoying (and awful scheduling) that the two games this week take place so close to each other, otherwise I'm fairly sure there wouldnt be any trouble of note in Lens.

[pink_triangle]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

so ... I reckon England will get kicked out of the comp at about the same time we vote ourselves out of the EU.

 

An England and Russia double disqualification wouldn't be too bad or Wales! In reality England are too important to sponsors to be kicked out.

[pink_triangle]

I wonder if a mediocre premiership makes Belgium players look better than they really are. The likes of Barca, Madrid and bayern don't seem that bothered to go after them.

[lost]

Not being bitter at all about Everton's 1 trip into the champions league and getting a Spanish club in the qualifiers when nobody wanted the UK to have 5 teams in the draw but Blatter has admitted past European draws have been fixed:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10313221/sepp-blatter-claims-european-draws-fixed-by-using-hot-and-cold-balls

[pink_triangle]

Great point for Iceland today, did a great job in neutralizing ronaldo . The smaller nations again showing they can hold their own to those who moaned about the dilution in quality for the extra eight teams.

[eFestivals]

8 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Great point for Iceland today, did a great job in neutralizing ronaldo . The smaller nations again showing they can hold their own to those who moaned about the dilution in quality for the extra eight teams.

yep - loudest cheer so far from me when that goal went in.

It's always lovely to see skippy brought back down to planet earth.

[WS_Jack_III]

First round of games have all been rather close affairs really, nobody has disgraced their selves yet.

[lost]

Looks like its going to be a long night in Lille. Fans singing we're "England and Wales, Fuck off Russia We're England and Wales" a Russian threw a firecracker into the crowd and it then kicked off with the police firing tear gas.

[The Nal]

Deserved win for England. Very positive to keep going and looking for a winner. 

[lost]

I wondered why Roy took 5 strikers. I didn't think they'd all get on the pitch in the same game. Still there's no formation there and Germany or even Italy would rip that team apart.

Hopefully something positive comes from it and we don't see sterling or Lallana in the next match.

Edited June 16, 2016 by lost

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Deserved win for England. Very positive to keep going and looking for a winner. 

Hmmm ... without that winner to hide the blushes, it was dull and uninspired.

[pink_triangle]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Deserved win for England. Very positive to keep going and looking for a winner. 

Its a tough one to swallow for us to get so close to the point. To me the difference was the strength in depth. Things aren't going well for England they have 2 top premiership strikers waiting. Wales at the same time bought on 2 championship level players. 

In a way England is always a terrible game for us, they are effectively Wales with better players. There's nothing we can ever seem to do to surprise them.

Russia game big for us now, a win puts us second, someone told me that may be a better position to finish in terms of opponents than winning the group. I'm not too confident about winning that game. The players are giving everything, but gallant defence apart we aren't playing well.

[TheGayTent]

One thing is for certain, the Euro 2016 winner ain't coming from Group B. 

Hopefully we've now seen the last of a certain player in an England shirt...

When did Allardyce become Wales manager? 

[pink_triangle]

42 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

One thing is for certain, the Euro 2016 winner ain't coming from Group B. 

Hopefully we've now seen the last of a certain player in an England shirt...

When did Allardyce become Wales manager? 

I think it's the weakest group. The fact we have played pretty mediocre and will probably Come second if we draw the last game is amazing.

[kaosmark2]

2 hours ago, lost said:

I wondered why Roy took 5 strikers. I didn't think they'd all get on the pitch in the same game. Still there's no formation there and Germany or even Italy would rip that team apart.

Hopefully something positive comes from it and we don't see sterling or Lallana in the next match.

I thought lallanna was pretty good this tournament and today. A lot better than I expected from him (not saying much).

Hart at fault, again. Kane isolated, rooney impressive. 

I definitely think Wales are better than Russia. How that translates into result is a different matter. 

[Gucci Piggy]

2 hours ago, lost said:

I wondered why Roy took 5 strikers. I didn't think they'd all get on the pitch in the same game. Still there's no formation there and Germany or even Italy would rip that team apart.

Hopefully something positive comes from it and we don't see sterling or Lallana in the next match.

What? I don't like Lallana in general but he's been one of our best players this tournament along with the full backs and Rooney.

Sterling absolute gash once again. If he didn't move for £50m last Summer he wouldn't have gotten this much gametime this tournament.

Edited June 16, 2016 by Will-2609

[lost]

40 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

What? I don't like Lallana in general but he's been one of our best players this tournament along with the full backs and Rooney.

Sterling absolute gash once again. If he didn't move for £50m last Summer he wouldn't have gotten this much gametime this tournament.

Sterling obviously alot worse. Lallana? honestly I'm racking my brains but can't think of anything of note he's done whilst Rashford who came on for him there are two moments which stand out. He's tidy enough but for his position of attacking mid I don't think he really excels in any key area.. goals scored, beating players, assists? 

 

Thought I was being harsh so googled last season. he's below Milner, Ali, Barkley and Drinkwater for assists

http://www.worldfootball.net/assists/eng-premier-league-2015-2016/

Ali, Barkley and Noble for goals:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/torschuetzenliste/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/?saison_id=2015&detailpos=10&altersklasse=alle

Edited June 16, 2016 by lost

[The Nal]

Great stuff from Norn Iron!

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Great stuff from Norn Iron!

Yep, not just a win either, a comfortable win. Get in!

[Gucci Piggy]

10 minutes ago, lost said:

Sterling obviously alot worse. Lallana? honestly I'm racking my brains but can't think of anything of note he's done whilst Rashford who came on for him there are two moments which stand out. He's tidy enough but for his position of attacking mid I don't think he really excels in any key area.. goals scored, beating players, assists? 

 

Thought I was being harsh so googled last season. he's below Milner, Ali, Barkley and Drinkwater for assists

http://www.worldfootball.net/assists/eng-premier-league-2015-2016/

Ali, Barkley and Noble for goals:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/torschuetzenliste/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/?saison_id=2015&detailpos=10&altersklasse=alle

As I said, in general I'm not a fan, but these last two games he's been one of our better players.

He did nothing of note? He gave Sterling a chance on a plate at 0-0.

[pink_triangle]

7 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Yep, not just a win either, a comfortable win. Get in!

I would say that's stretching it from watching the game.