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General Election 2015


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on a lighter note

I'm watching Scottish coverage - Tom Harris defending labour candidate for Glasgow South asked why he is likely to lose

Answer: "not enough votes mainly"

brilliant

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This wave of Scottish nationalism could seriously backfire,... straight into the hands of the Tories.

Wha's like us? :(

you need to check your maths. If the exit poll is right, if Labour had won every seat in Scotland, they would still be well short of a majority.

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its the irony of it all, yes scotland should have change, however that success could potentially condemn the rest of us.

best of luck to the snp in trying to deal with a tory led government

edit: and yes its not just in scotland where it screws labour up, there are many muppets in england it seems

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This wave of Scottish nationalism could seriously backfire,... straight into the hands of the Tories.

Wha's like us? :(

The Scots are alright, I really wouldn't mind an SNP-Lab coalition, would be a pleasing outcome, in fact. The fact that Cameron and Darth Murdoch have managed to hoodwink English morons into thinking that have anything to fear from the SNP after it's been the fucking Tories and LibDems that have been fucking them over for the past 5 years is nothing short of amazing, the electorate a staggeringly stupid sometimes.

Make yer fucking mind up, Dave, after spending all the time and effort campaigning for the jocks to stay with us, you treat them as a radioactive boogeyman that wants to eat English children when they exercise their democratic rights. You want them to stay, but their elected representatives are dangerous and evil? Fuck right off.

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its the irony of it all, yes scotland should have change, however that success could potentially condemn the rest of us.

best of luck to the snp in trying to deal with a tory led government

edit: and yes its not just in scotland where it screws labour up, there are many muppets in england it seems

Even if Labour won all 59 seats on the exit polls in Scotland, it wouldn't make a jot of difference. Cameron can either do 10 Lib dems in a coalition or 7-9 DUPs to get him over the mark of 323-326 (if you take out Bercow/Sinn Fein). So it's not Scotland condemning anyone really. If Tories make those gains and Labour havent eaten into the Tory marginals as much as needed in England just as much as the loss in Scotland.

My feeling is (if it ends up like that), as most polls put tories marginally ahead of Labour on seats, and with the Lib Dems more likely to work again with the tories because of that, any liberals in Tory/Lib marginals have voted Tory tactically to keep conservatives ahead and to liken the chance of the current coalition as it's the lib dems most likely route to remain in power.

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Even if Labour won all 59 seats on the exit polls in Scotland, it wouldn't make a jot of difference. Cameron can either do 10 Lib dems in a coalition or 7-9 DUPs to get him over the mark of 323-326 (if you take out Bercow/Sinn Fein). So it's not Scotland condemning anyone really. If Tories make those gains and Labour havent eaten into the Tory marginals as much as needed in England just as much as the loss in Scotland.

My feeling is (if it ends up like that), as most polls put tories marginally ahead of Labour on seats, and with the Lib Dems more likely to work again with the tories because of that, any liberals in Tory/Lib marginals have voted Tory tactically to keep conservatives ahead and to liken the chance of the current coalition as it's the lib dems most likely route to remain in power.

Why would Liberals vote tactically in their own marginal seat?

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you need to check your maths. If the exit poll is right, if Labour had won every seat in Scotland, they would still be well short of a majority.

It does however close the gap considerably and give more reason to have a left leaning coalition.

You want them to stay, but their elected representatives are dangerous and evil? Fuck right off.

To be fair, they do seem to have voted for a party that wants to break up the country, rather than stick together or at best get more for their section of the country over everyone else. You can see why its unappealing to some.

Exit poll might not be dead right, but I reckon its pretty much going be the result sadly :(

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To be fair, they do seem to have voted for a party that wants to break up the country, rather than stick together.

They may vote for the SNP to be their representatives in Westminster as they feel the SNP will give them more of a voice, but when asked straight if they'd like to stay, they voted in favour of the union. The SNP would be the elected representatives of a Scotland that wants to stay in the union, a Labour government listening to them and working with them would keep it that way, the Tories shouting them down will see Scotland change her mind, it will show that the No campaign didn't hold up its end of the bargain.

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They may vote for the SNP to be their representatives in Westminster as they feel the SNP will give them more of a voice, but when asked straight if they'd like to stay, they voted in favour of the union. The SNP would be the elected representatives of a Scotland that wants to stay in the union, a Labour government listening to them and working with them would keep it that way, the Tories shouting them down will see Scotland change her mind, it will show that the No campaign didn't hold up its end of the bargain.

Exactly :)

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How frustrating is it waiting for an actual meaningful result?

Very. Lots of idiocy on the BBC as well, quoting irrelevant statistics and trying to make up trends, while also trying to force hypotheses and speculation onto others.

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