LIONEL RICHIE

[Big Vern]

Yes, it's entirely possible. Success is no guarantee of quality, much as a lack of success is no guarantee of a lack of quality. And if your next question is along the lines of 'well if someone is good then why wouldn't they be successful?' then you probably need to use your imagination.

Because it's tame, unchallenging, easily-digestible well-publicised fodder for people with little imagination. Actually it looks like you've answered your own question:

Very true, but having an opinion does not instantly make you intolerant or dismissive.

Yes they can.

He has. I'll take a punt that his record sales have been declining over the years.

Millions of record sales do not show otherwise, and what's wrong with having an opinion that something is shit?

Why can't you accept that some people think that Lionel Ritchie is shit? Isn't it possible to have a genuinely negative opinion of his music, or does everyone who dislikes his stuff only have that opinion because they're too busy smelling their own farts (whatever that means)?

I'm not particularly a big Lionel Richie fan, I like the "hits" that's all for me. I do accept that some people will instantly dismiss many types of music as shit, I also choose to argue against it as a piss poor dismissive response which very few people ever bother to back their comments up with (none of this is directed at you personally by the way).

There are a number of people on here who display such abhorrent self righteous attitudes who are actually very insulting towards those that like what they deem as shit. And the way they express their opinion quite often is very dismissive and intolerant of those who do like what they dismiss as shit.

Edited December 3, 2014 by Big Vern

[Gnomicide]

With 1472 reputation points, that makes you one of the most popular posters on this forum, therefore you are shit.

Fair play to him. That's a cracking post.

[Big Vern]

how can it possibly be insulting for someone to say that what you like, they think is shit?

unless you're not sure whether you like it in the first place....

No mate, that's not the insulting part of it, at all. The insulting part is when those people are referred to as idiots, lacking intelligence, unimaginative etc just because they like something you think is shit. It's a massive intolerance to anything music wise other than what you are into.

Why on earth would i want to think somebody is stupid, boring or unimaginative just because they say on here that they like Lionel Richie, Madonna et al? All that demonstrates is that I would be narrow minded and lacking tolerance towards others for something so trivial as their musical tastes!

[Northernsoul45]

i thought lionel was a good shout for doing the legend slot with him being on tour early next year, i reckon he will do a sterling job...he has some classic tunes, he doesn't take himself too serious (as those adverts show) and considering there aint that many other options for a 'legends' slot booking...

[russycarps]

considering there aint that many other options for a 'legends' slot booking...

come again????

[neil999]

come again????

ive bought your comedy wig, where shall we meet for the handover?

[donthaveacoolname]

No mate, that's not the insulting part of it, at all. The insulting part is when those people are referred to as idiots, lacking intelligence, unimaginative etc just because they like something you think is shit. It's a massive intolerance to anything music wise other than what you are into.

Why on earth would i want to think somebody is stupid, boring or unimaginative just because they say on here that they like Lionel Richie, Madonna et al? All that demonstrates is that I would be narrow minded and lacking tolerance towards others for something so trivial as their musical tastes!

Spot on, very well said.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

No mate, that's not the insulting part of it, at all. The insulting part is when those people are referred to as idiots, lacking intelligence, unimaginative etc just because they like something you think is shit. It's a massive intolerance to anything music wise other than what you are into.

Why on earth would i want to think somebody is stupid, boring or unimaginative just because they say on here that they like Lionel Richie, Madonna et al? All that demonstrates is that I would be narrow minded and lacking tolerance towards others for something so trivial as their musical tastes!

It's a shame Russy doesn't take this stance.

(Though his arguments can be slightly amusing at times)

[russycarps]

this is a music forum on the internet. What do people really expect??

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

this is a music forum on the internet. What do people really expect??

Idiotic retorts, belittlement of other people's opinions, ridiculous statements, opinions stated as facts & an over bearing sense of self importance...

All of which you provide a great deal of. Carry on...

[Mardy]

Until you admit your Hunger Games mistake Russy, you're dead to me.

[russycarps]

Until you admit your Hunger Games mistake Russy, you're dead to me.

I assumed that was some kind of a sick joke on your part....

a smashing pair of bangers does not a good film make.

[theDandy]

this is a music forum on the internet. What do people really expect??

You do come across as a massive w*nker on here and to be fair to Big Vern he's completely had you off.

[russycarps]

You do come across as a massive w*nker on here and to be fair to Big Vern he's completely had you off.

ha you're the prick that spends all his spare time downvoting my posts arent you.

I'm absolutely devastated a wool from southport has a low opinion of me.

[LondonTom]

this is a music forum on the internet. What do people really expect??

To agree politely that pop acts are not that bad as they have sold millions of records

[Big Vern]

Case in point. Really is quite unnecessary

This reminds me of you Russy

Edited December 4, 2014 by Big Vern

[theDandy]

ha you're the prick that spends all his spare time downvoting my posts arent you.

I'm absolutely devastated a wool from southport has a low opinion of me.

I don't really know how to reply that...

[Big Vern]

I don't really know how to reply that...

Don't indulge him mate. Some people will always have something to say and nothing to contribute.

[theDandy]

Don't indulge him mate. Some people will always have something to say and nothing to contribute.

He's just come across as an even bigger moron bless him

[TheSeventhOne]

I've always found it quite odd that a hateful misanthrope like russy would feel such a strong affinity with Glastonbury Festival of all things.

Edited December 4, 2014 by TheSeventhOne

[Woffy]

I personally like reading russy's posts.

What i don't get is that some people don't seem to have realised what he's like before diving into an argument with him and then showing massive affront at the responses you've received:

"OH MY GOD, he has unswervingly opinionated, arguably misanthropic tendencies that may or may not be made in jest...dare i say it...he's...he's a music snob...ultra-partisan to his own likes. This offends me! Good LORD"

Did you:

a) not read anything he's ever posted - and there's a lot! - before entering a debate?

think your passionate counter arguments would have any effect / change his mind?

c) forget the type of forum (and i don't mean forum in the 'internet' sense) this is talking place?

Not taking sides, but i tend to metaphorically try and 'zoom out' of just where exactly we are when posting comments to gain a bit of self-perspective:

"Friends, honorouable members, Mr Speaker, my opinion on this matter is irrefutably correct in that...oh...wait...hang on...i'm on eFests. I'd better chill the fuck out and have a smoke..."

But enough from a fucking thick fuck like me - do carry on...

[Big Vern]

I personally like reading russy's posts.

What i don't get is that some people don't seem to have realised what he's like before diving into an argument with him and then showing massive affront at the responses you've received:

"OH MY GOD, he has unswervingly opinionated, arguably misanthropic tendencies that may or may not be made in jest...dare i say it...he's...he's a music snob...ultra-partisan to his own likes. This offends me! Good LORD"

Did you:

a) not read anything he's ever posted - and there's a lot! - before entering a debate?

think your passionate counter arguments would have any effect / change his mind?

c) forget the type of forum (and i don't mean forum in the 'internet' sense) this is talking place?

Not taking sides, but i tend to metaphorically try and 'zoom out' of just where exactly we are when posting comments to gain a bit of self-perspective:

"Friends, honorouable members, Mr Speaker, my opinion on this matter is irrefutably correct in that...oh...wait...hang on...i'm on eFests. I'd better chill the fuck out and have a smoke..."

But enough from a fucking thick fuck like me - do carry on...

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing

[Woffy]

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing

As stated in my post, i'm not especially bright, so posting shit like that is baffling.

I'm sure its rather profound, but its sounds shit to me.

[Bisque]

I like Jessie J

[A Guy Called Matt]

I read Russy's posts and 99% of the time see them full or irony and sarcasm.

Maybe I am totally wrong but hey, northing new in that.